Re: [FFmpeg-devel] [RFC] clarifying the TC conflict of interest rule

[Michael Niedermayer via ffmpeg-devel <ffmpeg-devel@ffmpeg.org>]

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On Tue, Mar 05, 2024 at 11:27:22AM +0100, Anton Khirnov wrote:
> Quoting Michael Niedermayer (2024-03-05 03:50:01)
> > The STF opertunity had a deadline.
> > Also we can already start discussing what shall be done when the next grant
> > opertunity comes.
> 
> How about some actual transparency

Theres a wiki:
https://trac.ffmpeg.org/wiki/SponsoringPrograms/STF/2024
that contains an application
only 2 people filled out the application

also Pierre collected the SoWs, only 2 people submitted any SoWs

I do remember asking you to submit something and IIRC you said that you
are waiting for the vote outcome. But you never submitted anything
I also tried to contact everyone else, who at the time had something incomplete
on the wiki and their name.

This (and other people also not submitting any SoWs) caused us to fall below
teh 150k€ minimum so i tried to fill the missing space with added work
so we reach the minimum.

at night on the 12th/morning 13th february i was CC-ed on the application submission to STF
" a draft corresponding to the community-driven proposals found in [wiki]."

Tara from STF then reworked this and asked us various additional information:
    (estimated effort (people hours) per milestone,
     and the fully loaded hourly rate (the price rate, so the cost divided by total number of hours).)
     "If you want to invoice after each sub milestone, then you need to break down the total cost per milestone into each sub milestone (and by extension also the estimated effort)."
Others, I and niklas then helped fill the missing things in quickly before the deadline

Someone along the line added more incomplete proposals to the wiki after the deadline
But same as with others, no SoWs where submitted, and none of the details needed in
the application where filled out.


> instead of backroom deals, for a
> change.

iam sorry, but these accusations are not acceptable
The application was and is on a public wiki
the SoWs where collected by pierre and it was publically announced before.
I tried to contact all people before the deadline who had incomplete submissions.

I think for a change you should say thanks to tara, pierre, SPI, STF and others
doing all the work. Instead of accusations.

And you should submit a proposal with SoW and all needed information
next time. Similarly others should too. The idea of this was never to have
just 2 people submit SoWs


> 
> The application has apparently been submitted, with no public
> announcement that it even happened, much less what was in it.

whats in it, should simlpy be what was on the wiki application
plus the fixes and cleanups mentioned above

thx

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