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From: Michael Niedermayer <michael@niedermayer.cc>
To: FFmpeg development discussions and patches <ffmpeg-devel@ffmpeg.org>
Subject: Re: [FFmpeg-devel] [RFC] clarifying the TC conflict of interest rule
Date: Wed, 6 Mar 2024 03:06:53 +0100
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In-Reply-To: <CABLWnS9nDj6q5DtVo6aLBYhCSGvmkWXM3ei+9P0uTrWWAd+svg@mail.gmail.com>


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Hi Vittorio

On Tue, Mar 05, 2024 at 01:44:52PM +0100, Vittorio Giovara wrote:
> On Tue, Mar 5, 2024 at 3:50 AM Michael Niedermayer <michael@niedermayer.cc>
> wrote:
> 
> > On Mon, Mar 04, 2024 at 10:45:02AM +0100, Vittorio Giovara wrote:
> > > On Mon, Mar 4, 2024 at 1:57 AM Michael Niedermayer <
> > michael@niedermayer.cc>
> > > wrote:
> > >
> > > > On Sun, Mar 03, 2024 at 03:49:33AM +0100, Michael Niedermayer wrote:
> > > > [...]
> > > >
> > > > > +If a TC member is aware of a conflict of interest with regards to
> > the
> > > > case, they must announce it
> > > > > +and recuse themselves from the TC discussion and vote.
> > > >
> > > > please replace this in my proposal by this (as it clearer states what
> > the
> > > > intend is)
> > > >
> > > > > * If a TC member is aware of being in a conflict of interest with
> > > > regards to the case, they must announce it
> > > > > and recuse themselves from the TC discussion and vote.
> > > >
> > > > (also as you can see we have active discussions here, the vote is IMHO
> > > >  premature)
> > > >
> > >
> > > we literally had premature voting for STF, despite multiple discussions
> > > taking place during the time
> >
> > The STF opertunity had a deadline.
> >
> 

> a deadline that you were aware of for months, and dumped on the community
> saying "we only have 2 weeks to decide"

There was a zoom call or something, i think in january, i was not part of
and i also never saw a recording of it.
on the 22th january i got a mail from someone who was on that call and who
summarized it for several people who where not on the call, that said that
STF wanted our application by the end of january.

On the 25th January, we where told the meeting was delayed and would
happen on teh 14th february.
And on the 27th january at night (you could call it 28th morning)
i posted about the Souvereign tech fund.

So, iam sorry, but i knew of this deadline exatly 2-3 days longer than the
rest of teh world. Not months. I knew some people where discussing with STF,
yes but if you expect them to have made this public at an early stage, you
need to complain to them. Not me, who also wanted this to be more public earlier.

Thx


> and *while we were discussing the
> options* you single handedly started a vote

[...]

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  reply	other threads:[~2024-03-06  2:07 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 91+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2024-02-20  8:22 Anton Khirnov
2024-02-20  8:50 ` Anton Khirnov
2024-02-20  9:12   ` Marton Balint
2024-02-20  9:21     ` Anton Khirnov
2024-02-20 19:32       ` Marton Balint
2024-02-22 21:34         ` Anton Khirnov
2024-02-20 10:01   ` Gyan Doshi
2024-02-20 11:09     ` Anton Khirnov
2024-02-22  6:50       ` Gyan Doshi
2024-02-22 21:21         ` Anton Khirnov
2024-02-23  7:56           ` Nicolas George
2024-02-23 10:56             ` Gyan Doshi
2024-02-23 14:18               ` Nicolas George
2024-02-23 14:52               ` Zhao Zhili
2024-02-23 16:05                 ` Anton Khirnov
2024-02-23 19:36             ` Ronald S. Bultje
2024-02-26 16:33               ` Anton Khirnov
2024-02-26 18:12                 ` Ronald S. Bultje
2024-02-26 19:17                   ` Anton Khirnov
2024-02-26 19:48                     ` Ronald S. Bultje
2024-02-26 20:02                       ` Anton Khirnov
2024-02-26 20:30                       ` Rémi Denis-Courmont
2024-02-26 20:44               ` Nicolas George
2024-02-20 20:50   ` Niklas Haas
2024-02-22 21:14     ` Anton Khirnov
2024-02-23 23:27       ` Michael Niedermayer
2024-02-24 11:05         ` Paul B Mahol
2024-02-26 16:52         ` Anton Khirnov
2024-02-26 22:47           ` Michael Niedermayer
2024-02-27  7:20             ` Anton Khirnov
2024-02-27 16:55               ` Michael Niedermayer
2024-03-01 16:50                 ` Anton Khirnov
2024-02-20 14:01 ` Michael Niedermayer
2024-02-20 14:18   ` Rémi Denis-Courmont
2024-02-20 16:10   ` Anton Khirnov
2024-02-20 20:41     ` Michael Niedermayer
     [not found]       ` <3C1074B4-096B-4806-BFB0-9D491E148C48@cosmin.at>
2024-02-20 21:12         ` Cosmin Stejerean via ffmpeg-devel
2024-02-20 21:51           ` Michael Niedermayer
2024-02-22 21:54             ` Anton Khirnov
2024-02-23 14:25               ` Michael Niedermayer
2024-02-20 16:07 ` Nicolas George
2024-02-20 19:57 ` Rémi Denis-Courmont
2024-02-22 21:16   ` Anton Khirnov
2024-02-23 14:00 ` Michael Niedermayer
2024-02-23 14:15   ` Nicolas George
2024-02-23 16:07   ` Anton Khirnov
2024-03-01 17:33 ` Anton Khirnov
2024-03-02  5:37   ` Gyan Doshi
2024-03-02 19:01     ` Ronald S. Bultje
     [not found]       ` <3EB2D263-CAB5-4096-A061-D880D4BE95F6@cosmin.at>
2024-03-02 19:08         ` Cosmin Stejerean via ffmpeg-devel
2024-03-03  1:34     ` Michael Niedermayer
2024-03-03  7:23       ` Gyan Doshi
2024-03-03  2:49   ` Michael Niedermayer
2024-03-03 21:57     ` Anton Khirnov
2024-03-03 23:36       ` Michael Niedermayer
2024-03-03 23:56         ` Michael Niedermayer
2024-03-05 18:38           ` Niklas Haas
2024-03-05 19:02           ` Nicolas George
2024-03-04 21:15         ` Anton Khirnov
2024-03-05  2:36           ` Michael Niedermayer
2024-03-05 10:23             ` Anton Khirnov
2024-03-04  0:57     ` Michael Niedermayer
2024-03-04  9:45       ` Vittorio Giovara
2024-03-05  2:50         ` Michael Niedermayer
2024-03-05 10:27           ` Anton Khirnov
2024-03-06 23:25             ` Michael Niedermayer via ffmpeg-devel
2024-03-07  3:37               ` Zhao Zhili
2024-03-07 14:01               ` Vittorio Giovara
2024-03-08 13:16                 ` Paul B Mahol
2024-03-05 12:44           ` Vittorio Giovara
2024-03-06  2:06             ` Michael Niedermayer [this message]
2024-03-22 12:52   ` Anton Khirnov
2024-03-22 13:01     ` Nicolas George
2024-03-22 13:05     ` Gyan Doshi
2024-03-25  9:41       ` Anton Khirnov
2024-03-25 12:10         ` Gyan Doshi
2024-03-25 14:49           ` Anton Khirnov
2024-03-24  2:21     ` Michael Niedermayer
2024-03-24 11:40       ` Anton Khirnov
2024-03-24 23:44         ` Michael Niedermayer
2024-03-25  9:44           ` Anton Khirnov
2024-03-26  8:20   ` Anton Khirnov
2024-03-26 22:14     ` Michael Niedermayer
2024-03-29 11:39     ` Anton Khirnov
2024-03-29 19:52       ` Michael Niedermayer
2024-04-01 11:16 ` Anton Khirnov
2024-04-01 12:20   ` Gyan Doshi
2024-04-01 13:07     ` Anton Khirnov
2024-04-01 14:59   ` Michael Niedermayer
2024-04-01 15:46     ` Paul B Mahol
2024-04-01 15:41   ` Paul B Mahol

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