From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from ffbox0-bg.mplayerhq.hu (ffbox0-bg.ffmpeg.org [79.124.17.100]) by master.gitmailbox.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8D1394844A for ; Mon, 4 Mar 2024 00:29:33 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [127.0.1.1] (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ffbox0-bg.mplayerhq.hu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3008168D3F2; Mon, 4 Mar 2024 02:29:30 +0200 (EET) Received: from relay8-d.mail.gandi.net (relay8-d.mail.gandi.net [217.70.183.201]) by ffbox0-bg.mplayerhq.hu (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 7AF5168D3AF for ; Mon, 4 Mar 2024 02:29:23 +0200 (EET) Received: by mail.gandi.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 1D3B81BF203 for ; Mon, 4 Mar 2024 00:29:21 +0000 (UTC) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=niedermayer.cc; s=gm1; t=1709512162; h=from:from:reply-to:subject:subject:date:date:message-id:message-id: to:to:cc:mime-version:mime-version:content-type:content-type: in-reply-to:in-reply-to:references:references; bh=5elxWpr1uU/Rego9fiPGyDaKP2xBo4jaYKIKLFM9O7w=; b=IKj2jG0Jo6fC2ix+Zv2OMOBclFFEUDAz0Rp9LAiMp1JdVFqtQUcvyiWloS1Fif4liPCpZs 3Fi3TKllwWZKam9XoS6g4NUDL2cly3yOwT3li4K10uV486tm8/t7LbIPK1R1c9P4yxLnBc A3wtK7UbXbhS3q65m5QywkbZ1HnSIb5eo/8XTIe1oEbJnm7PbuANh1RtwMpN/7SOovHQuV OJDdOadR+3SNWoynK9NJuJcRez7ElbZxDqRNa9CINhcCP3nP6VjD6iORBVdnRnjuFNRphD pKpO2cYpBvt9nBhKaMMhALjJWZoqLBgAbRBU5/seMmhcyuYT9bdjqm65vi/l1w== Date: Mon, 4 Mar 2024 01:29:21 +0100 From: Michael Niedermayer To: FFmpeg development discussions and patches Message-ID: <20240304002921.GV6420@pb2> References: <20240226224438.1793-1-michael@niedermayer.cc> <20240303025301.GP6420@pb2> <9998185.WVftWDYO7Z@basile.remlab.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <9998185.WVftWDYO7Z@basile.remlab.net> X-GND-Sasl: michael@niedermayer.cc Subject: Re: [FFmpeg-devel] [PATCH 1/3] doc/community: Vote in the interest of the project (first part of Antons proposal) X-BeenThere: ffmpeg-devel@ffmpeg.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: FFmpeg development discussions and patches List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Reply-To: FFmpeg development discussions and patches Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============2460312570582643959==" Errors-To: ffmpeg-devel-bounces@ffmpeg.org Sender: "ffmpeg-devel" Archived-At: List-Archive: List-Post: --===============2460312570582643959== Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha256; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="LZAyiNqAMYw5mltW" Content-Disposition: inline --LZAyiNqAMYw5mltW Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Sun, Mar 03, 2024 at 10:05:49AM +0200, R=E9mi Denis-Courmont wrote: > Le sunnuntaina 3. maaliskuuta 2024, 4.53.01 EET Michael Niedermayer a =E9= crit : > > On Mon, Feb 26, 2024 at 11:44:36PM +0100, Michael Niedermayer wrote: > > > Signed-off-by: Michael Niedermayer > > > --- > > >=20 > > > doc/community.texi | 2 ++ > > > 1 file changed, 2 insertions(+) > >=20 > > I intend to apply the patchset tomorrow if there are no objections >=20 > You can't have a strict rule ("must") requiring something vague ("best fo= r the=20 > project"). please see at the end of my reply >=20 > What is best for the project tomorrow may differ from today. yes > What is best for > the project w.r.t. Linux distributions may differ from that w.r.t. Window= s=20 > users. yes > What is best for long term maintainability and sustainability of the > project does not align with the best publicity and functionality in the s= hort=20 > term. yes > It is also inherently both subjective and unknowable. we need to be precisse here. "what is best for the project" is both subjective and unknowable, yes but "in their view" is for the decission maker not unknowable, i would instead very much hope they know what their view is. >=20 > This sentence just creates fodder for future accusations of bad faith,=20 > hypocrisy, misjudgement against TC decisions. While the sentence is meani= ng=20 > well, it adds absolutely nothing of value. This is standard (now i dont know why googles first link ended up in australia but ok) https://www5.austlii.edu.au/au/legis/cth/consol_act/ca2001172/s181.html " Good faith--directors and other officers (1) A director or other officer of a corporation must exer= cise their powers and discharge their duties: (a) in good faith in the best interests of the cor= poration; and (b) for a proper purpose. " This uses "must", and thats actual law IMO its perfectly reasonable to expect committee members to act in the best interrest of FFmpeg. Theres no "should" here, theres a "must" here It should be clear to every adult that oppinions can widely differ and that what one considers to be the best interrest will commonly be different from someone else on another day. Still theres a big difference between "should" act in the best interrest and "must" act in teh best interrest. with "should" someone could just not do it and we will see this. People will not act against their own interrest unless they are required to. thx [...] --=20 Michael GnuPG fingerprint: 9FF2128B147EF6730BADF133611EC787040B0FAB The real ebay dictionary, page 2 "100% positive feedback" - "All either got their money back or didnt compla= in" "Best seller ever, very honest" - "Seller refunded buyer after failed scam" --LZAyiNqAMYw5mltW Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- iF0EABEIAB0WIQSf8hKLFH72cwut8TNhHseHBAsPqwUCZeUV3QAKCRBhHseHBAsP q1Y8AKCbITHD90i1hLKCJ6Rjm1xEL+1XmgCff9pA4DX3KblB6ajHaZDHRr7kCrE= =oPP2 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --LZAyiNqAMYw5mltW-- --===============2460312570582643959== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline _______________________________________________ ffmpeg-devel mailing list ffmpeg-devel@ffmpeg.org https://ffmpeg.org/mailman/listinfo/ffmpeg-devel To unsubscribe, visit link above, or email ffmpeg-devel-request@ffmpeg.org with subject "unsubscribe". --===============2460312570582643959==--