On Sun, Mar 03, 2024 at 10:29:59PM +0100, Lynne wrote:
> Mar 3, 2024, 22:08 by michael@niedermayer.cc:
> 
> > On Sun, Mar 03, 2024 at 05:36:41PM +0100, Stefano Sabatini wrote:
> >
> >> On date Tuesday 2024-02-27 20:01:26 +0100, Michael Niedermayer wrote:
> >> > This explains how to request refunds and what can be funded by SPI
> >> > 
> >> > Co-Author: Stefano Sabatini <stefasab@gmail.com>
> >> > ---
> >> >  Makefile           |  2 +-
> >> >  src/spi            | 98 ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
> >> >  src/spi_js         |  0
> >> >  src/spi_title      |  1 +
> >> >  src/template_head2 |  1 +
> >> >  5 files changed, 101 insertions(+), 1 deletion(-)
> >> >  create mode 100644 src/spi
> >> >  create mode 100644 src/spi_js
> >> >  create mode 100644 src/spi_title
> >> > 
> >> > diff --git a/Makefile b/Makefile
> >> > index 0686e44..dd681e4 100644
> >> > --- a/Makefile
> >> > +++ b/Makefile
> >> > @@ -1,7 +1,7 @@
> >> >  # ffmpeg.org HTML generation from source files
> >> > 
> >> >  SRCS = about bugreports consulting contact donations documentation download \
> >> > -       olddownload index legal shame security archive
> >> > +       olddownload index legal shame security spi archive
> >> > 
> >> >  HTML_TARGETS  = $(addsuffix .html,$(addprefix htdocs/,$(SRCS)))
> >> > 
> >> > diff --git a/src/spi b/src/spi
> >> > new file mode 100644
> >> > index 0000000..8fffc7f
> >> > --- /dev/null
> >> > +++ b/src/spi
> >> > @@ -0,0 +1,98 @@
> >> > +<p>
> >> > +SPI (Software in the Public Interest) is a non-profit corporation
> >> > +registered in the state of New York founded to act as a fiscal sponsor
> >> > +for organizations that develop open source software and hardware. For
> >> > +details check here:
> >> > +<a href="https://www.spi-inc.org/">www.spi-inc.org</a>
> >> > +</p>
> >> > +
> >> > +<p>
> >> > +FFmpeg is an SPI associated project and donations can be collected and
> >> > +handled by SPI on behalf of FFmpeg. For details about the association
> >> > +check here:
> >> > +<a href="https://www.spi-inc.org/projects/ffmpeg/">www.spi-inc.org/projects/ffmpeg/</a>
> >> > +</p>
> >> > +
> >> > +<br>
> >> > +
> >> > +<h4>How to request refunds from SPI:</h4>
> >> > +<p>
> >> > +Send a mail to ffmpeg-devel with the [REFUND-REQUEST] tag and a short
> >> > +description of the refund topic in the subject.
> >> > +</p>
> >> > +
> >> > +<p>
> >> > +In the mail, you also need to provide the amount to be refunded, with
> >> > +a short description of how the money was spent.
> >> > +</p>
> >> > +
> >> > +<p>
> >> > +There is no need and is not recommeded to send receipts when sending
> >> > +the refund request on the ffmpeg-devel mailing-list, but they are
> >> > +usually needed later when the request is approved and the refund
> >> > +request is sent to SPI:
> >> > +<a href="https://www.spi-inc.org/treasurer/reimbursement-form/">www.spi-inc.org/treasurer/reimbursement-form</a>
> >> > +</p>
> >> > +
> >> > +<br>
> >> > +<h4>What can be payed by SPI:</h4>
> >> > +<p>
> >>
> >> > +FFmpeg money collected at SPI can be used for any purpose which is in line with
> >> > +501(c)3 nonprofit rules, and within our mission (Free & OSS software).
> >>
> >> Free & Open Source software?
> >>
> >> > +</p>
> >> > +
> >> > +<p>
> >> > +In practice we frequently payed for travel and hardware.
> >> > +For other refund expenses or sponsorships, it is recommended to
> >>
> >> > +discuss them beforehand on ffmpeg-devel. If there is a community
> >> > +agreement on their approval, the current FFmpeg liaison will followup
> >> > +to get an approval on the SPI side.
> >> > +</p>
> >> > +
> >> > +
> >> > +<br>
> >> > +<h4>Funding active development by SPI:</h4>
> >> > +<p>
> >> > +The texts below have been taken from multiple replies FFmpeg has
> >> > +received from SPI, they have been edited
> >> > +so that "I" was replaced by "SPI" in some cases.)
> >> > +</p>
> >> > +<p>
> >> > +Paying for development *does* require substantial
> >> > +additional paperwork, but it is not prohibited.
> >> > +</p>
> >> > +<p>
> >> > +Several SPI projects pay contractors for development
> >> > +efforts.  SPI needs a contract in place which describes the work to be
> >> > +done.  There are also various things SPI needs to check about the potential
> >> > +contractors(e.g. are they a US person or not, as with GSoC mentor payments;
> >>
> >> contractors_(
> >>
> >> > +are they really a contractor and not a employee).
> >> > +</p>
> >> > +<p>
> >> > +SPI can't deal with employment at the moment because that involves a
> >> > +lot of work, like health insurance, tax withholding, etc.  Contractors
> >> > +are easier because they have to take care of that themselves; Whether
> >> > +someone is a contractor vs employee depends on various factors (that
> >> > +of course are different in every country) and can be disputed (see
> >> > +e.g. the debate about whether Uber drivers are employees); SPI has a
> >> > +questionnaire about their circumstances.
> >> > +</p>
> >> > +<p>
> >> > +Unfortunately, there's no one-size-fits all when dealing with
> >>
> >> one-size-fits-all ?
> >>
> >> > +contractors, especially without knowing the contributor's country.
> >> > +</p>
> >>
> >> > +<p>
> >> > +SPI does have some contract templates which depends on the contractors
> >> > +country. In case of US, Australia, France and a couple others
> >> > +countries, SPI can easily provide them, otherwise SPI would need to
> >> > +ask their attorney to draft one, which would take some time
> >>
> >> add missing "."
> >>
> >> > +</p>
> >> > +<p>
> >> > +Also, SPI has two models, MSA (which transfers ownership) and CSA (which
> >> > +grants a license instead). SPI usually sends the MSA (it's better for most
> >> > +purposes), but for development purposes, some projects prefer that the
> >> > +contractor retains ownership rights.
> >>
> >> Probably it's good to expand MSA (Master Service Agreements) and CSA
> >> (Continued Service Agreements) in their first occurrence.
> >>
> >> > +</p>
> >> > +
> >> > +<br><br>
> >> > +
> >> > diff --git a/src/spi_js b/src/spi_js
> >> > new file mode 100644
> >> > index 0000000..e69de29
> >> > diff --git a/src/spi_title b/src/spi_title
> >> > new file mode 100644
> >> > index 0000000..389532a
> >> > --- /dev/null
> >> > +++ b/src/spi_title
> >> > @@ -0,0 +1 @@
> >> > +SPI
> >> > diff --git a/src/template_head2 b/src/template_head2
> >> > index 7ba634b..79d2f51 100644
> >> > --- a/src/template_head2
> >> > +++ b/src/template_head2
> >> > @@ -37,6 +37,7 @@
> >> >                <li><a href="developer.html#Contributing">Contribute</a></li>
> >> >                <li><a href="http://fate.ffmpeg.org">FATE</a></li>
> >> >                <li><a href="http://coverage.ffmpeg.org">Code Coverage</a></li>
> >> > +              <li><a href="spi.html">Funding through SPI</a></li>
> >>
> >> Still looks good to me with the minor adjustments, thanks.
> >>
> >
> > will apply
> >
>
> I think stuff like this should go to the website, not the git repo.

its there now:
https://www.ffmpeg.org/spi.html

thx

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