From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from ffbox0-bg.mplayerhq.hu (ffbox0-bg.ffmpeg.org [79.124.17.100]) by master.gitmailbox.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4467848F35 for ; Fri, 1 Mar 2024 01:13:20 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [127.0.1.1] (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ffbox0-bg.mplayerhq.hu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 46C6D68D1E2; Fri, 1 Mar 2024 03:13:17 +0200 (EET) Received: from relay6-d.mail.gandi.net (relay6-d.mail.gandi.net [217.70.183.198]) by ffbox0-bg.mplayerhq.hu (Postfix) with ESMTPS id D136868CD6D for ; Fri, 1 Mar 2024 03:13:10 +0200 (EET) Received: by mail.gandi.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id F231AC0004 for ; Fri, 1 Mar 2024 01:13:09 +0000 (UTC) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=niedermayer.cc; s=gm1; t=1709255590; h=from:from:reply-to:subject:subject:date:date:message-id:message-id: to:to:cc:mime-version:mime-version:content-type:content-type: in-reply-to:in-reply-to:references:references; bh=Cujnd0zWvpyrx7ElO2B+wNwg1jWErjWgY9KOMp/zAVU=; b=DIVVC97YyFlLr+9gUYFHG8XWhOlmRVKFj++m12axmWqJX/cROoGJMPtjpGn5ZRXiSphfpc QESan3ad4tcDe81TSHCrIglRxj21n2re2/I9zxnS/7mQ69qFVqFgfT61WgAveohqpnHbyX RivMLfQ9pk6mebA+8yZZ7yP810dEID8+iY27FJtgnQh0Nh30PaIA6q4cStie8vHKkwSxjQ Aji4cH0s2W0bbPuCZThsVtYKI0FKR9WfkHJLBFNSxNjsIb5F+nu8gsX7IP3VyY5vmVIxIW 5zKC2B4fdPGRGigs0sYG+uLqptb64OKBy9Qw6sUuL0bJgmtnhgHCQFxm0QoY5Q== Date: Fri, 1 Mar 2024 02:13:09 +0100 From: Michael Niedermayer To: FFmpeg development discussions and patches Message-ID: <20240301011309.GF6420@pb2> References: <20240228125616.458327-1-jdek@itanimul.li> <20240228125616.458327-2-jdek@itanimul.li> <20240228132943.GB6420@pb2> MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: X-GND-Sasl: michael@niedermayer.cc Subject: Re: [FFmpeg-devel] [PATCH 2/2] avcodec: remove sonic lossy/lossless audio X-BeenThere: ffmpeg-devel@ffmpeg.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: FFmpeg development discussions and patches List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Reply-To: FFmpeg development discussions and patches Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============8369656906114684687==" Errors-To: ffmpeg-devel-bounces@ffmpeg.org Sender: "ffmpeg-devel" Archived-At: List-Archive: List-Post: --===============8369656906114684687== Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha256; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="1Yv1PfXyY5Fygnit" Content-Disposition: inline --1Yv1PfXyY5Fygnit Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Thu, Feb 29, 2024 at 03:44:46PM +0100, Vittorio Giovara wrote: > On Thu, Feb 29, 2024 at 2:31=E2=80=AFPM Lynne wrote: >=20 > > Feb 29, 2024, 02:50 by vittorio.giovara@gmail.com: > > > > > On Wed, Feb 28, 2024 at 11:13=E2=80=AFPM Lynne wrote: > > > > > >> Feb 28, 2024, 14:29 by michael@niedermayer.cc: > > >> > > >> > On Wed, Feb 28, 2024 at 01:56:10PM +0100, J. Dekker wrote: > > >> > > > >> >> This was an experimental/research codec of which ffmpeg is the on= ly > > >> >> encoder and decoder, > > >> >> > > >> > > > >> > > > >> >> development has stalled > > >> >> > > >> > > > >> > Thats not true, there was private dicussion making sonic the most > > >> > advanced audio codec in FFmpeg a few months ago. > > >> > Iam not saying that will happen, i am just saying there was a > > >> > discussion about it. And that iam in principle interrested in > > >> > working on this. Its possible i will not have enough time ... > > >> > > > >> > > >> I would strongly prefer for it to be kept around as well. > > >> > > >> Otherwise it creates precedence to throw out codecs if they're > > >> not popular enough, and we're known for being able to play > > >> most formats ever created. > > >> > > > > > > IMO there is a big difference between a game codec and an experimental > > > codec that hasn't come out of ffmpeg > > > > > > > We offer support for it. Someone must have used it. > > I'm sure there are less used game codecs we support than Sonic. > > >=20 > the point here is that game codecs are part of digital preservation and a= nd > effort against digital obsolescence > an "experimental codec" that nobody (read: a very limited amount of users) Every codec we develop is experimental and used by nobody then by nobody outside ffmpeg and if we dont allow this then we can never create a new codec. FFv1 would not exist if we could not have added it at ta time noone used it. FFv1 would not have become widely used if it was in someones personal repository and main FFmpeg did not support it thx [...] --=20 Michael GnuPG fingerprint: 9FF2128B147EF6730BADF133611EC787040B0FAB Take away the freedom of one citizen and you will be jailed, take away the freedom of all citizens and you will be congratulated by your peers in Parliament. --1Yv1PfXyY5Fygnit Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- iF0EABEIAB0WIQSf8hKLFH72cwut8TNhHseHBAsPqwUCZeErngAKCRBhHseHBAsP qyIvAJ9/6YUYS6GNrAT5UOK/4le2Xn/lwACeOPrAsoSjFMXZ5bn4KyI30uKQEfI= =GIwe -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --1Yv1PfXyY5Fygnit-- --===============8369656906114684687== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline _______________________________________________ ffmpeg-devel mailing list ffmpeg-devel@ffmpeg.org https://ffmpeg.org/mailman/listinfo/ffmpeg-devel To unsubscribe, visit link above, or email ffmpeg-devel-request@ffmpeg.org with subject "unsubscribe". --===============8369656906114684687==--