Re: [FFmpeg-devel] [PATCH 2/2] avcodec: remove sonic lossy/lossless audio

[Michael Niedermayer <michael@niedermayer.cc>]

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On Thu, Feb 29, 2024 at 03:44:46PM +0100, Vittorio Giovara wrote:
> On Thu, Feb 29, 2024 at 2:31 PM Lynne <dev@lynne.ee> wrote:
> 
> > Feb 29, 2024, 02:50 by vittorio.giovara@gmail.com:
> >
> > > On Wed, Feb 28, 2024 at 11:13 PM Lynne <dev@lynne.ee> wrote:
> > >
> > >> Feb 28, 2024, 14:29 by michael@niedermayer.cc:
> > >>
> > >> > On Wed, Feb 28, 2024 at 01:56:10PM +0100, J. Dekker wrote:
> > >> >
> > >> >> This was an experimental/research codec of which ffmpeg is the only
> > >> >> encoder and decoder,
> > >> >>
> > >> >
> > >> >
> > >> >> development has stalled
> > >> >>
> > >> >
> > >> > Thats not true, there was private dicussion making sonic the most
> > >> > advanced audio codec in FFmpeg a few months ago.
> > >> > Iam not saying that will happen, i am just saying there was a
> > >> > discussion about it. And that iam in principle interrested in
> > >> > working on this. Its possible i will not have enough time ...
> > >> >
> > >>
> > >> I would strongly prefer for it to be kept around as well.
> > >>
> > >> Otherwise it creates precedence to throw out codecs if they're
> > >> not popular enough, and we're known for being able to play
> > >> most formats ever created.
> > >>
> > >
> > > IMO there is a big difference between a game codec and an experimental
> > > codec that hasn't come out of ffmpeg
> > >
> >
> > We offer support for it. Someone must have used it.
> > I'm sure there are less used game codecs we support than Sonic.
> >
> 
> the point here is that game codecs are part of digital preservation and and
> effort against digital obsolescence

> an "experimental codec" that nobody (read: a very limited amount of users)

Every codec we develop is experimental and used by nobody
then by nobody outside ffmpeg
and if we dont allow this then we can never create a new codec.

FFv1 would not exist if we could not have added it at ta time
noone used it. FFv1 would not have become widely used if it was in
someones personal repository and main FFmpeg did not support it

thx

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