From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from ffbox0-bg.mplayerhq.hu (ffbox0-bg.ffmpeg.org [79.124.17.100]) by master.gitmailbox.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0423549301 for ; Wed, 7 Feb 2024 14:44:12 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [127.0.1.1] (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ffbox0-bg.mplayerhq.hu (Postfix) with ESMTP id A4DCB68D139; Wed, 7 Feb 2024 16:44:09 +0200 (EET) Received: from relay8-d.mail.gandi.net (relay8-d.mail.gandi.net [217.70.183.201]) by ffbox0-bg.mplayerhq.hu (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 9592B68CA86 for ; Wed, 7 Feb 2024 16:44:02 +0200 (EET) Received: by mail.gandi.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id BED8D1BF209 for ; Wed, 7 Feb 2024 14:44:01 +0000 (UTC) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=niedermayer.cc; s=gm1; t=1707317041; h=from:from:reply-to:subject:subject:date:date:message-id:message-id: to:to:cc:mime-version:mime-version:content-type:content-type: in-reply-to:in-reply-to:references:references; bh=cTUUaEkO5d8by05E55n3nFvQKPuMvOMuXZ+wW6flFGM=; b=MhKuRfC/OpFXhk6Fc+Ss2fP84bzuSgPjlZmHeFWGJLMbS1apxhQqmoXuTLb8eAXSFlC/MF JlchNG8C7bgD+m8puyTYhbPhHAkPEx2H1FOex63YmuNipataghxK1RHDfLwAhul2ELnyuy CBDkHqUK63ZuLB3MsQprjjep0Fj/WSCaZ8enDBzSIEq8R+rK9p9KJgs1biPrP8fMMV3eLU dKLsnnM33rt76x4vaQ+w/af9mGhqBuluHGLvNHt8PZqS3VPAUi5NkvGsDUITyoRzJkxrp6 mkKEdgfZVrKme1ju64lRtqs9QJhz4xE9y+wQSWzCZU9nccWpJZ3itJqsXITn3g== Date: Wed, 7 Feb 2024 15:44:00 +0100 From: Michael Niedermayer To: FFmpeg development discussions and patches Message-ID: <20240207144400.GG6420@pb2> References: <20240206170443.GE61936@haasn.xyz> <20240206181715.GB6420@pb2> <20240206212304.GD6420@pb2> <20240206230449.GE6420@pb2> <20240207125820.GF6420@pb2> MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: X-GND-Sasl: michael@niedermayer.cc Subject: Re: [FFmpeg-devel] STF SoWs X-BeenThere: ffmpeg-devel@ffmpeg.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: FFmpeg development discussions and patches List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Reply-To: FFmpeg development discussions and patches Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============0727778486495483149==" Errors-To: ffmpeg-devel-bounces@ffmpeg.org Sender: "ffmpeg-devel" Archived-At: List-Archive: List-Post: --===============0727778486495483149== Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha256; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="hrBVMDt6Avyxzvoc" Content-Disposition: inline --hrBVMDt6Avyxzvoc Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Wed, Feb 07, 2024 at 08:08:34AM -0500, Ronald S. Bultje wrote: > Hi Michael, >=20 > On Wed, Feb 7, 2024 at 7:58=E2=80=AFAM Michael Niedermayer > wrote: >=20 > > Theres the person writing a SoW for work he wants to do. > > Theres the person who accepts the SoW in FFmpeg > > Theres the person who passes accepted SoW on to SPI/STF > > > > Iam sadly involved in more than one role here. > > >=20 > I think this is what Vittorio was referring to when he said this might be > problematic. This is essentially what conflict-of-interest means. It > doesn't mean that you're a bad person or doing something wrong, it simply > means that there's overlapping goals. For example, in this case, there > might be your personal goals ("get paid for work") vs the project goals > ("get money for maintenance"). They're (partially) overlapping but not > equal, because they're different angles of the same situation. >=20 > Sometimes there is no ideal solution that satisfies everyone. As I said > before, that's normal and that's OK. Yes, so the question is what do we do here? Can you accept that "merge to git master" is not a deliverable ? (at least in the february 2024 iteration) Alternatively i can offer that i work on merging the code to git master on a euro per hour rate with a limit. But again the actual merge is not guranteed failing that, i see as only options left to either do a quick vote on the finished Coverity bug fixing SoW, so a simple "is this text ok", and if yes nothing anyone says later can create another problem. Or I can resign from my involvement in managing STF in february and someone else can take that over. I never really wanted to manage it anyway, i was just trying to help to get 200k=E2=82=AC to FFmpeg developers for their rel= entless volunteer maintaince of the project so they would have something in exchange for all they gave up of their own time thx [...] --=20 Michael GnuPG fingerprint: 9FF2128B147EF6730BADF133611EC787040B0FAB Breaking DRM is a little like attempting to break through a door even though the window is wide open and the only thing in the house is a bunch of things you dont want and which you would get tomorrow for free anyway --hrBVMDt6Avyxzvoc Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- iF0EABEIAB0WIQSf8hKLFH72cwut8TNhHseHBAsPqwUCZcOXJwAKCRBhHseHBAsP q1SoAJ4oQ8IFlLhbkKBntNQzS7CQec05jQCfcuJ1Qa7R9WyxuqHtcI+CH4vOY8U= =/sZF -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --hrBVMDt6Avyxzvoc-- --===============0727778486495483149== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline _______________________________________________ ffmpeg-devel mailing list ffmpeg-devel@ffmpeg.org https://ffmpeg.org/mailman/listinfo/ffmpeg-devel To unsubscribe, visit link above, or email ffmpeg-devel-request@ffmpeg.org with subject "unsubscribe". --===============0727778486495483149==--