From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from ffbox0-bg.mplayerhq.hu (ffbox0-bg.ffmpeg.org [79.124.17.100]) by master.gitmailbox.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id B42FF49281 for ; Tue, 6 Feb 2024 21:23:14 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [127.0.1.1] (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ffbox0-bg.mplayerhq.hu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9D5B968D085; Tue, 6 Feb 2024 23:23:11 +0200 (EET) Received: from relay4-d.mail.gandi.net (relay4-d.mail.gandi.net [217.70.183.196]) by ffbox0-bg.mplayerhq.hu (Postfix) with ESMTPS id B520468CE27 for ; Tue, 6 Feb 2024 23:23:05 +0200 (EET) Received: by mail.gandi.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 10571E0002 for ; Tue, 6 Feb 2024 21:23:04 +0000 (UTC) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=niedermayer.cc; s=gm1; t=1707254585; h=from:from:reply-to:subject:subject:date:date:message-id:message-id: to:to:cc:mime-version:mime-version:content-type:content-type: in-reply-to:in-reply-to:references:references; bh=slFCo+vT1TImSXAl75DCfikl5Cm1AnBtgX3piflGuyc=; b=okFhKL9dLoH5ETEcO9mb1A0h03+/6iev1Op5Z5K1Sc0O2Rs4EMMWXk8AsVKaomBGTf6pX3 KH/uibWMgYidvj9BstU1mQf9MXmk911X5tYVKvxKIZwhaRytCxXI4JvF9MZ9rj6DFPAW8J t7Qmnl7Txtwi6Rq9sdd5E9osgQ0r22yTER6QNTHLn0XzASR3iU8CMoZUyAzDwquIvhKMhM io6fezb/ApbhZA1j1JRIqZqsvM2Q1vCDHa3LH87OWxK/YaLCCgAYbT0oZ5hMkeZZWUUxEn vAU3BYSr/PvwJHDsg+fc/oKm+ZogiBCDnOySrRYKJWxXt5mXSyAUT6XU1fjLXg== Date: Tue, 6 Feb 2024 22:23:04 +0100 From: Michael Niedermayer To: FFmpeg development discussions and patches Message-ID: <20240206212304.GD6420@pb2> References: <20240206020642.GW6420@pb2> <20240206151457.GX6420@pb2> <20240206170443.GE61936@haasn.xyz> <20240206181715.GB6420@pb2> MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: X-GND-Sasl: michael@niedermayer.cc Subject: Re: [FFmpeg-devel] STF SoWs X-BeenThere: ffmpeg-devel@ffmpeg.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: FFmpeg development discussions and patches List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Reply-To: FFmpeg development discussions and patches Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============1941443268320960577==" Errors-To: ffmpeg-devel-bounces@ffmpeg.org Sender: "ffmpeg-devel" Archived-At: List-Archive: List-Post: --===============1941443268320960577== Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha256; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="zcUUFH26zTZK9Ry8" Content-Disposition: inline --zcUUFH26zTZK9Ry8 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Tue, Feb 06, 2024 at 03:53:55PM -0500, Ronald S. Bultje wrote: > Hi, >=20 > On Tue, Feb 6, 2024 at 1:17=E2=80=AFPM Michael Niedermayer > wrote: >=20 > > I wont work for months to > > then be at the mercy of not a single of 2000 subscribers posting some > > "i object" and all 2000 know in this situation it would cause an > > inconvenience to me. > > >=20 > That's a strawman version of how our review process works. I don't know w= hy > you're bringing this up. Our review process works by any developer who wants to, review and or comme= nt submitted patches. These are generally people who are active in FFmpeg deve= lopment. But anyone of the subscribers can comment and we generally encourage others to comment if they have something to say. Its true anyone of 2000 people could block a patch. This is not neccessary for the argument at all though. Even if it is just the 30 most active developers, the problem is still ther= e. I cannot gurantee that none of them will block a patch. A wide range of different developers have had disagreemnets over time. And disagreements have frequently blocked some patches. As a person signing a SoW i cannot gurantee that noone will block the work from being merged into git master. Thus that is something i cannot sign. What i can and did and do suggest is "Patches submitted for review to the FFMPEG dev mailing list. As well as ta= king care of all reasonable review comments." If "all reasonable review comments" is not enough then what are other review comments ? Obviously it must be UNreasonable review comments and no, i will not sign that. Iam not going to spend the little free time i have working on this and then have litterally "UNreasonable review comments" that iam contratually obliged to somehow handle thx [...] --=20 Michael GnuPG fingerprint: 9FF2128B147EF6730BADF133611EC787040B0FAB Dictatorship naturally arises out of democracy, and the most aggravated form of tyranny and slavery out of the most extreme liberty. -- Plato --zcUUFH26zTZK9Ry8 Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- iF0EABEIAB0WIQSf8hKLFH72cwut8TNhHseHBAsPqwUCZcKjMQAKCRBhHseHBAsP qzh3AJ40AzGiwLyQmDA5PNopnW5w7mBgPgCfQwnWMPzuB9ZjFcUEUSEHvprF1a0= =TiEa -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --zcUUFH26zTZK9Ry8-- --===============1941443268320960577== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline _______________________________________________ ffmpeg-devel mailing list ffmpeg-devel@ffmpeg.org https://ffmpeg.org/mailman/listinfo/ffmpeg-devel To unsubscribe, visit link above, or email ffmpeg-devel-request@ffmpeg.org with subject "unsubscribe". --===============1941443268320960577==--