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From: Niklas Haas <ffmpeg@haasn.xyz>
To: FFmpeg development discussions and patches <ffmpeg-devel@ffmpeg.org>
Subject: Re: [FFmpeg-devel] [PATCH 2/2] Require compilers to support C17.
Date: Mon, 5 Feb 2024 21:53:28 +0100
Message-ID: <20240205215328.GB88809@haasn.xyz> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAHGibzGt_RrnTNm6F59-J2GFtxP47Em6wUd__y6h_J6ByiQ7sQ@mail.gmail.com>

On Mon, 05 Feb 2024 15:13:22 -0500 Devin Heitmueller <devin.heitmueller@ltnglobal.com> wrote:
> On Mon, Feb 5, 2024 at 2:59 PM Anton Khirnov <anton@khirnov.net> wrote:
> >
> > It should be available in all relevant modern compilers and will allow
> > us to use features like anonymous unions.
> 
> Is everybody on board with the implications for this patch in terms of
> platforms we allow building on?  For example, the gcc on Centos7
> doesn't support C17, and that isn't *that* old of a platform.
> 
> If all the developers agree that we won't support less than Centos8,
> then so be it.  But I think this should be a conscious decision, and
> we might want to reflect it in the documentation somewhere on what
> major platforms/versions we expect to be able to build on.
> 
> Devin

Note that CentOS 7 stopped receiving package updates 4 years ago, and
will stop receiving security fixes in a couple of months. So this
discussion has an expiry date.

I think that having this change negatively affect somebody would require
an extremely specific set of circumstances. Most systems running such
old distros tend to be headless servers, not generally the type of
environment you'd expect somebody to be cloning the latest version of
ffmpeg and compiling it from source. And if somebody is committed enough
to attempt this anyway, they might as well also compile/download a more
up-to-date toolchain.

Many of our not-mandatory-but-typically-desirable dependencies are
already required at significantly newer versions. (For example, OpenSSL
3.0.0, required for HTTPS, is from 2021)
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  parent reply	other threads:[~2024-02-05 20:53 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 36+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2024-02-05 19:54 [FFmpeg-devel] [PATCH 1/2] lavc/refstruct: do not use max_align_t on MSVC Anton Khirnov
2024-02-05 19:54 ` [FFmpeg-devel] [PATCH 2/2] Require compilers to support C17 Anton Khirnov
2024-02-05 20:12   ` James Almer
2024-02-05 20:13     ` Anton Khirnov
2024-02-05 20:13   ` Devin Heitmueller
2024-02-05 20:30     ` Anton Khirnov
2024-02-05 20:33       ` James Almer
2024-02-05 20:40       ` Devin Heitmueller
2024-02-07  9:50         ` Anton Khirnov
2024-02-07 16:15           ` Devin Heitmueller
2024-02-07 16:36             ` Anton Khirnov
2024-02-05 20:53     ` Niklas Haas [this message]
2024-02-09 11:22       ` Dominik 'Rathann' Mierzejewski
2024-02-09 12:04         ` Kevin Wheatley
2024-02-05 20:20   ` Lynne
2024-02-05 20:27   ` Michael Niedermayer
2024-02-05 20:31     ` Anton Khirnov
2024-02-05 20:45       ` Michael Niedermayer
2024-02-07  9:55         ` Anton Khirnov
     [not found]           ` <2E73439B-3AE5-46FC-80FB-2D375FD852C5@cosmin.at>
2024-02-07 18:52             ` Cosmin Stejerean via ffmpeg-devel
2024-02-07 19:27               ` Lynne
     [not found]                 ` <1CBFE199-B1ED-47B5-BD97-7DA715EAB55B@cosmin.at>
2024-02-07 21:10                   ` Cosmin Stejerean via ffmpeg-devel
2024-02-07 21:19                     ` James Almer
2024-02-08  7:15                       ` Rémi Denis-Courmont
2024-02-08 10:42                         ` Andreas Rheinhardt
2024-02-07 21:48                     ` Lynne
     [not found]                       ` <8C790A7E-A236-4413-A4EB-AFE2F91E96A8@cosmin.at>
2024-02-08  0:36                         ` Cosmin Stejerean via ffmpeg-devel
2024-02-08  4:29                           ` Jean-Baptiste Kempf
2024-02-08 18:52                             ` Sean McGovern
2024-02-08 19:05                               ` James Almer
2024-02-08 19:46                                 ` Lynne
2024-02-05 20:55       ` Niklas Haas
2024-02-05 22:22         ` Stefano Sabatini
2024-02-07  9:53         ` Anton Khirnov
2024-02-06  6:50   ` Diederick C. Niehorster
2024-02-06 12:03     ` Lynne

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