From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from ffbox0-bg.mplayerhq.hu (ffbox0-bg.ffmpeg.org [79.124.17.100]) by master.gitmailbox.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 009274914B for ; Sun, 4 Feb 2024 13:41:25 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [127.0.1.1] (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ffbox0-bg.mplayerhq.hu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4318B68D12E; Sun, 4 Feb 2024 15:41:23 +0200 (EET) Received: from relay7-d.mail.gandi.net (relay7-d.mail.gandi.net [217.70.183.200]) by ffbox0-bg.mplayerhq.hu (Postfix) with ESMTPS id E2C7468C9F8 for ; Sun, 4 Feb 2024 15:41:16 +0200 (EET) Received: by mail.gandi.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 22F5720002 for ; Sun, 4 Feb 2024 13:41:15 +0000 (UTC) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=niedermayer.cc; s=gm1; t=1707054076; h=from:from:reply-to:subject:subject:date:date:message-id:message-id: to:to:cc:mime-version:mime-version:content-type:content-type: in-reply-to:in-reply-to:references:references; bh=OTZsv094pIwkFG2BLIgIOdcO4P0ue8MWwQFXSqg62OQ=; b=ktGXVAvALJj/Rk8vg5LT1D1dHOgWb8wjsPC8v6C4OPO7RAe8zn7NZyjPuEPPbZV42EtmvH TawU2U8mKnIGJtd9XI2nniyj8eY5xQXBXEuer40L8/FowQMCxPFJbUSu5jM3MWO8AlfjyS G22WKPsLNDbdd8Jb810qdTzT4lP9YN1tFafIpRAz28OLIfqMghxt8o8AdVHOOx5XUNyOk/ Y74c/4apIVD54I62IMXYMiyLOcpLCwRkfnLYFgOa5ZgYpe/xJwwBWKfJGG3+WkoTyT6nSr r3Nzh+kO693yseTfmJ0YRTAol5jfJb1a5+ErF9MDBIEP7tybfv1+V2mPmDf8Zw== Date: Sun, 4 Feb 2024 14:41:15 +0100 From: Michael Niedermayer To: FFmpeg development discussions and patches Message-ID: <20240204134115.GO6420@pb2> References: <20240128032549.GN6420@pb2> <20240130014821.GJ6420@pb2> <36880d31-320c-419f-ae4d-42a5eade0ebe@gmail.com> <79E1CAE3-5019-403D-839C-93C569B00BED@remlab.net> <0948568f-bd7e-47e7-bb92-39e19def951d@app.fastmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <0948568f-bd7e-47e7-bb92-39e19def951d@app.fastmail.com> X-GND-Sasl: michael@niedermayer.cc Subject: Re: [FFmpeg-devel] Sovereign Tech Fund X-BeenThere: ffmpeg-devel@ffmpeg.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: FFmpeg development discussions and patches List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Reply-To: FFmpeg development discussions and patches Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============4178793592978367784==" Errors-To: ffmpeg-devel-bounces@ffmpeg.org Sender: "ffmpeg-devel" Archived-At: List-Archive: List-Post: --===============4178793592978367784== Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha256; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="pju69MSqJft6so4y" Content-Disposition: inline --pju69MSqJft6so4y Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi On Sun, Feb 04, 2024 at 11:02:30AM +0100, J. Dekker wrote: >=20 >=20 > On Sun, Feb 4, 2024, at 10:49, R=C3=A9mi Denis-Courmont wrote: > > Hi, > > > > I don't believe it is appropriate to hold the vote before Derek's=20 > > question is addressed. > > > > We don't really know what we're voting on here. > > > > Le 1 f=C3=A9vrier 2024 20:22:14 GMT+01:00, Derek Buitenhuis=20 > > a =C3=A9crit=C2=A0: > >>On 1/31/2024 9:44 PM, Derek Buitenhuis wrote: > >>> On 1/30/2024 1:48 AM, Michael Niedermayer wrote: > >>>> https://trac.ffmpeg.org/wiki/SponsoringPrograms/STF/2024 > >>>=20 > >>> Not to derail this fine thread, but what forks does the Merge Forks > >>> project refer to? > >> > >>I do not believe this has been answered. > >> > >>- Derek >=20 >=20 > The vote is unclear for me and also it was not explained who =E2=80=98the= same person as before=E2=80=99 is, no reply or answer to this either. Hope= Michael can clear this up. As said on IRC, i thought people knew it, but =E2=80=98the same person as b= efore=E2=80=99 is Thilo. Ive updated the price design suggestion for the merge task, its 16=E2=82=AC= / commit limited to 50k=E2=82=AC this comes from looking at pauls fork which has around 500 commits in 2 mon= ths thus 250 commits per month, 12 months, and if we allocate 50k that end with roug= hly 16=E2=82=AC / commit if activity stays equal. The task has ATM no developer on it. If a developer adds himself, he can ch= ange teh task and specify what he proposes to merge. I am totally perplexed why every dot on every i is such a big thing. We are doing GSoC for a decade and noone cared about voting about anything = in it. The difference here is FFmpeg developers are benefiting from the money. Neither GSoC nor STF binds the GA or FFmpeg to accept bad code. Have you th= ought about this ? where would that come from ? We send an application and a scope of work FFmpeg is no legal entity we cant sign anything binding. The developers doing the work can sign some binding text, that text might r= ead ill implement X and get Y payed, or i spend X hours working on Y and get Z = paid. If a devleoper signs "i will push this to ffmpeg" thats on the developer an= d her problem if it gets rejected or reverted. GSoC doesnt do this and i dont think any sane person would sign this, I mys= elf on consulting jobs generall point out to customers that i can do work X but= cannot gurantee acceptance in FFmpeg as sometimes things get rejected for hard to = predict reasons. thx [...] thx --=20 Michael GnuPG fingerprint: 9FF2128B147EF6730BADF133611EC787040B0FAB If you drop bombs on a foreign country and kill a hundred thousand innocent people, expect your government to call the consequence "unprovoked inhuman terrorist attacks" and use it to justify dropping more bombs and killing more people. 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