From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from ffbox0-bg.mplayerhq.hu (ffbox0-bg.ffmpeg.org [79.124.17.100]) by master.gitmailbox.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id C290649094 for ; Thu, 1 Feb 2024 19:13:14 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [127.0.1.1] (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ffbox0-bg.mplayerhq.hu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3BECF68D0BA; Thu, 1 Feb 2024 21:13:11 +0200 (EET) Received: from relay1-d.mail.gandi.net (relay1-d.mail.gandi.net [217.70.183.193]) by ffbox0-bg.mplayerhq.hu (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 0FEE668CE0F for ; Thu, 1 Feb 2024 21:13:03 +0200 (EET) Received: by mail.gandi.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 48B0D240006; Thu, 1 Feb 2024 19:13:03 +0000 (UTC) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=niedermayer.cc; s=gm1; t=1706814783; h=from:from:reply-to:subject:subject:date:date:message-id:message-id: to:to:cc:cc:mime-version:mime-version:content-type:content-type: in-reply-to:in-reply-to:references:references; bh=aY8izzDBaMkoXg3LesRNoWszYyFqVBZ4sV5tcIjXs4k=; b=mVRw7cjSRoXL0v0r2e/GAI8AAJgCDV9zJylsGgIg2lqmTqm3TdKcXvJXFcn3JQYpUXNRYn cEqJrQVczLWneEpOHsvdkDZJEZ7n/2I8CmCXDuYxEBd8PJda4sBBnlUnPiJsHfGB509CGv Iy2WiG7W6IeKLnFJxewNN1h4T80824rjbD2dBRmu1QSKwV+4klAK8tuvfIXO3KU3Ja0uya OlEFdAAdU7reyt5MaIyaLLs0vLQQqKpxrPpeTye+K11eL5gM85cb5KUzZVKyscCATKLu0N snWbDVaVv0OalgzLMz6HSglSOdvcyuXa3uE/1Tmam6xX2Un6zf4Tdiho7qWwLA== Date: Thu, 1 Feb 2024 20:13:02 +0100 From: Michael Niedermayer To: FFmpeg development discussions and patches Message-ID: <20240201191302.GD6420@pb2> References: <20240201042926.GC6420@pb2> MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: X-GND-Sasl: michael@niedermayer.cc Subject: Re: [FFmpeg-devel] [RFC] Vote STF/SPI 2024-02 X-BeenThere: ffmpeg-devel@ffmpeg.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: FFmpeg development discussions and patches List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Reply-To: FFmpeg development discussions and patches Cc: "Jonatas L. Nogueira" Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============6013056675402432744==" Errors-To: ffmpeg-devel-bounces@ffmpeg.org Sender: "ffmpeg-devel" Archived-At: List-Archive: List-Post: --===============6013056675402432744== Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha256; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="OJXLXS3A2+wwjKH3" Content-Disposition: inline --OJXLXS3A2+wwjKH3 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Thu, Feb 01, 2024 at 06:45:52PM +0100, Vittorio Giovara wrote: > On Thu, Feb 1, 2024 at 5:29=E2=80=AFAM Michael Niedermayer > wrote: >=20 > > Hi all > > > > To do the STF/SPI thing properly, and make sure we do what the Community > > wants. > > We should do this vote: (unless lots of people reply and say we should > > skip the vote) > > (i am also CCing jonatan to make sure the option in the vote actually a= sk > > the GA the > > right question) > > > > The vote description will be as follows: > > The STF/SPI has suggested us to submit an Application / Scope of work > > before their february meeting. > > There are about 2 weeks left. > > The minimum grant is 150 000 =E2=82=AC > > The next STF meeting is expected to be in may. If we submit in february > > and are not selected > > we can probably try again in may. Which would increase our chances > > If we do not submit in february we can probably submit in may. > > There is no guarantee that money will be available in may, for example > > between october 2023 > > and february 2024 no funds where available AFAIK. > > Wiki page is here: > > https://trac.ffmpeg.org/wiki/SponsoringPrograms/STF/2024 > > > > > > Option A. The Application and Scope of Work from the WIKI shall be > > submitted to STF/SPI before the february 2024 meeting, disagreements in= it > > shall be decided by the TC. To achieve continuity, submission shall be = done > > by the same person as previous if possible. > > > > Option B. No Application and Scope of Work shall be submitted in februa= ry > > 2024 > > >=20 > Since all objections and requests for more time have been ignored, and th= is > is happening anyway, can we add a small amendment for the sake of > transparency and for avoiding any conflict of interest? Whoever was > involved with the STF/SPI talks cannot be the recipient of the sponsorshi= p. > The same of course should apply to any other future funding, it must be > either the community (via GA) or a third party setting up the sponsorship. >=20 > I'm aware that would exclude Micheal, Thilo, and technically Jonatas, but > at this point it's the only way I can see this move forward in any > direction. Its very easy to add a Option C to the vote but there are 2 things that needs to be pointed out First, this may be considered "not fair" by STF, fairness being one thing that was explicitly mentioned in some of the mails from STF Second we currently dont have enough people on the wiki page to even get cl= ose to the minimum. So excluding from the few that are interrested in this is a= strange move. Unless one just wants this to fail. thx [...] --=20 Michael GnuPG fingerprint: 9FF2128B147EF6730BADF133611EC787040B0FAB "I am not trying to be anyone's saviour, I'm trying to think about the future and not be sad" - Elon Musk --OJXLXS3A2+wwjKH3 Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- iF0EABEIAB0WIQSf8hKLFH72cwut8TNhHseHBAsPqwUCZbvtOgAKCRBhHseHBAsP q1fvAJwOgsuhitIKjztFAr8kB1s/1WbV2ACfeLV3ClROvKWa40fZveKy/ZNa0To= =5kb3 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --OJXLXS3A2+wwjKH3-- --===============6013056675402432744== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline _______________________________________________ ffmpeg-devel mailing list ffmpeg-devel@ffmpeg.org https://ffmpeg.org/mailman/listinfo/ffmpeg-devel To unsubscribe, visit link above, or email ffmpeg-devel-request@ffmpeg.org with subject "unsubscribe". --===============6013056675402432744==--