Hi Derek On Mon, Jan 29, 2024 at 02:38:42PM +0000, Derek Buitenhuis wrote: > On 1/28/2024 3:25 AM, Michael Niedermayer wrote: > > At this point, what we need is a list of Projects so we can submit an application to STF > > at or before 12th Feb. (at the 14th they have a meeting and will review our submission) > > What STF told us, they need ATM is: > > As others have said, the whole model of using discrete projects here seems opposed to > the actual intent of the STF - maintained and stable OSS long term. The whole suggestion here is based on what STF and SPI said. There was a conference between SPI and STF where they worked the details out. Also all the things SPI told us had STF in CC. I think you should try to bring the work you want funded into the framework that they told us to use. Instead of complaining > > Furthermore, we *already* have a bunch of money sitting in SPI funds that *is* suitable > for use on discete projects, but it never gets used. It is a poor way to encourage useful > work, IMO. Theres a very big difference. we have around 100k USD in SPI STF has a lower limit of 150.000 ¤ so we actually need to ask them for at least 150k to be qualified IIUC And honestly if you reject that, i just dont understand you. "Estimated costs: The cost of the work described in the application must exceed ¤150,000 (current minimum)." AT no point could we have done anything with SPI money in a similar magnitude. In fact trying to use SPI money for any work failed because of it not being enough. thx [...] -- Michael GnuPG fingerprint: 9FF2128B147EF6730BADF133611EC787040B0FAB If you fake or manipulate statistics in a paper in physics you will never get a job again. If you fake or manipulate statistics in a paper in medicin you will get a job for life at the pharma industry.