From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from ffbox0-bg.mplayerhq.hu (ffbox0-bg.ffmpeg.org [79.124.17.100]) by master.gitmailbox.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 451A848E7E for ; Mon, 29 Jan 2024 17:27:25 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [127.0.1.1] (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ffbox0-bg.mplayerhq.hu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3DF0568D21E; Mon, 29 Jan 2024 19:27:23 +0200 (EET) Received: from relay5-d.mail.gandi.net (relay5-d.mail.gandi.net [217.70.183.197]) by ffbox0-bg.mplayerhq.hu (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 8D68068D201 for ; Mon, 29 Jan 2024 19:27:16 +0200 (EET) Received: by mail.gandi.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id A14AF1C0002; Mon, 29 Jan 2024 17:27:15 +0000 (UTC) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=niedermayer.cc; s=gm1; t=1706549235; h=from:from:reply-to:subject:subject:date:date:message-id:message-id: to:to:cc:cc:mime-version:mime-version:content-type:content-type: in-reply-to:in-reply-to:references:references; bh=wmBd3rqZ67YbUfj8oVpiZMc2ZZsg3vEXUpDY9bcL32s=; b=VqoixHbeWaJos+Gh3jHImm3OR2wS5y1otN2EQ5N/oPA8Pcf4p2dHl7t81HTjkTwI33pfAi GLPhvNMSuWU8vvkJ7RMR/wLBy1nxSxd/S9NCmBoJjFevIjIJUff9Ko9rdUjrIp5zs8tXYR VOsSdGl45wCNR9zkTPzYPHfQ9nU0oHU7270gN+LxhwDbmm9iYHjBpHhIV5lNVU21zvPuMC GemH3aL7quxsvVSMFK0UQSa7h/b9grfboEwCchBFZiV1UCgZ8TgzQZq5g5iriGWzdhCAFb qgZnzPMfPzVddaZ0vSfhRbDgK3szcs0Qqzp6bNCYa6sTk8bKy54AWmmc+mT36g== Date: Mon, 29 Jan 2024 18:27:14 +0100 From: Michael Niedermayer To: FFmpeg development discussions and patches Message-ID: <20240129172714.GY6420@pb2> References: <20240128032549.GN6420@pb2> <20240128171233.GO6420@pb2> <20240128200620.GP6420@pb2> <20240128213459.GR6420@pb2> MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: X-GND-Sasl: michael@niedermayer.cc Subject: Re: [FFmpeg-devel] Sovereign Tech Fund X-BeenThere: ffmpeg-devel@ffmpeg.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: FFmpeg development discussions and patches List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Reply-To: FFmpeg development discussions and patches Cc: "Jonatas L. Nogueira" Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============1642788678164984171==" Errors-To: ffmpeg-devel-bounces@ffmpeg.org Sender: "ffmpeg-devel" Archived-At: List-Archive: List-Post: --===============1642788678164984171== Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha256; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="HLGFn5Z83C1flW5S" Content-Disposition: inline --HLGFn5Z83C1flW5S Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hello Kieran On Mon, Jan 29, 2024 at 03:02:24PM +0000, Kieran Kunhya wrote: > > > > > > >> [...] the GA definitly cannot object to an invoice for a project that > > the GA approved previously. > > > "The General Assembly is sovereign and legitimate for all its decisio= ns > > regarding the FFmpeg project." > > > > When working with a contract (and a SOW), the General Assembly won't be > > able to block an invoice. > > Because the General Assembly will already have exercised its sovereignty > > before the work started. > > And unless the GA becomes a nation, any court of law would uphold the > > contract. > > >=20 > In this project, acceptance of a patch is based on the technical contents > of a patch, not a few vague paragraphs in a SoW. These decisions are made > by the Technical Committee and the General Assembly. >=20 > Tying the project contractually is unacceptable. "the FFmpeg project" is not a legal entity, so thats probably not even poss= ible if one wanted. Also FFmpeg has been part of Google summer of code for many many years and also in the past in outreachy. All these projects payed "students" for work they did. =46rom a legal point of view, these are probably very similar Mysteriously, there was a total absence of similar drama there. I wonder how it could have been possible to do that for over a decade with not one instance of drama or problems like here. We had students passing the mentors review, being paid but code was found not be clean enough yet for git master and was not yet merged I remember no fight about any such case. There also where the normal cases where students failed to reach the goal and did not get paid abd code was not merged, and the ones that succeeded got paid and code was merged. > There are plenty of "corporate" open source projects where this is fine, > but there is a reason we are not one of those full of corporate friendly > code like binary blobs, intrinsics, SDKs etc. Iam glad there is one thing we agree on :) thx [...] --=20 Michael GnuPG fingerprint: 9FF2128B147EF6730BADF133611EC787040B0FAB Dictatorship: All citizens are under surveillance, all their steps and actions recorded, for the politicians to enforce control. 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