Hi Kieran

On Sun, Jan 28, 2024 at 06:59:22PM +0000, Kieran Kunhya wrote:
> >
> > > Statements of Work and milestones (by definition) are for features.
> >
> > The SoW suggestion/need came from a lawyer that jonatas asked IIUC.
> > so i can just suggest to put work like what you list above into a SOW like
> > framework. Or maybe Jonatas can clarify, in case i misunderstood
> >
> 
> My point is that ongoing maintenance can't be split into discrete pieces of
> work, nor arguably can a given timescale be associated with cleanup.

Well, i certainly can split alot of the  maintenance I do in discrete pieces of
work I would assume at least some people can do that too for their work.


> For example YUVJ is difficult, until you remove it and see the bugs you
> don't know how long it will take. This is not suited to the bounty/SoW
> methodology.

I think the question is more, if this is suited for STF then.
Because if its so unclear and open endeded iam not sure STF would be willing
to fund it.
I think the SoW side would not be the obstacle, but this is more for Tara and
Jonatas to awnser than me.
You can maybe write in a SoW along the lines of
Remove YUVJ without introducing regressions, within 18 months and upto 50k EUR
and payment would be 80USD per hour.
You would have to keep track of the time spend in accordance to legal requirements

OTOH if you cannot give any time or monetary limit at all i do not think STF
would sponsor this. So i dont think the SoW or SPI is the obstacle here.

Also it has to be said, that the example is hypothetical, you are not going to
do that work. You seem more interrested in arguing against anything related to SPI
(which you also did in the last refund request from lynne until lynne droped
the request for parts to repair her laptop)
But that said iam very interrested in your oppinon and input, if it leads to
improvments.


> 
> We don't need STF to be funding features, we need maintenance,

Well i think we are happy about all funding, but STF is more about maintenance


> infrastructure etc which all lends itself to salaried work.

employment & salary is one way to pay someone. Sending invoices and doing
some paperwork before is the other.

Both work fine really. For example iam not employed by FFlabs and the work
i did for them is just by sending invoices, while what i do qualifies as
maintenance probably close to 100%.

thx

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