From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from ffbox0-bg.mplayerhq.hu (ffbox0-bg.ffmpeg.org [79.124.17.100]) by master.gitmailbox.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 358C248A95 for ; Sun, 28 Jan 2024 17:12:43 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [127.0.1.1] (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ffbox0-bg.mplayerhq.hu (Postfix) with ESMTP id DF3C168D150; Sun, 28 Jan 2024 19:12:40 +0200 (EET) Received: from relay8-d.mail.gandi.net (relay8-d.mail.gandi.net [217.70.183.201]) by ffbox0-bg.mplayerhq.hu (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 0E1D568CFE2 for ; Sun, 28 Jan 2024 19:12:34 +0200 (EET) Received: by mail.gandi.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 1184A1BF205; Sun, 28 Jan 2024 17:12:33 +0000 (UTC) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=niedermayer.cc; s=gm1; t=1706461954; h=from:from:reply-to:subject:subject:date:date:message-id:message-id: to:to:cc:cc:mime-version:mime-version:content-type:content-type: in-reply-to:in-reply-to:references:references; bh=Fuwcey5QQGaYKZKC+POHUuzNihEkZE3HDbpWbN50Y60=; b=bBTFZKLEMu9LBXSsBTq6Z5VCEATsNKWPn5dbEKLjaNDvlWDYZ3qhXwtXI2qesOUL21yG+3 gX4Kzk0Vf0AMkNKLPjHTNkceh1IKQQ7/ShYQiesAYiaf64jG+RNnqYPFzpsVXgxuujmDRb X4ttI1ByOBGQwpSLynSQUwyxLJrBibIZMnmHAPzkUFI28G3Tl3o8goXpHXPg3+dF/ZqedL g3nhrifwKjqoWX7fZwNdFzqH30yYqZpE4PlFxIFhAXGC+wM5ORntPMg6I4uY8d/bAzBd1O zYBSTrNB1h3wlktQUsNqiY85PtOY0l5Kduc0Ah+JworCj6fQmrRilTXPLV82Wg== Date: Sun, 28 Jan 2024 18:12:33 +0100 From: Michael Niedermayer To: FFmpeg development discussions and patches Message-ID: <20240128171233.GO6420@pb2> References: <20240128032549.GN6420@pb2> MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: X-GND-Sasl: michael@niedermayer.cc Subject: Re: [FFmpeg-devel] Sovereign Tech Fund X-BeenThere: ffmpeg-devel@ffmpeg.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: FFmpeg development discussions and patches List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Reply-To: FFmpeg development discussions and patches Cc: "Jonatas L. Nogueira" Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============5628494633129588409==" Errors-To: ffmpeg-devel-bounces@ffmpeg.org Sender: "ffmpeg-devel" Archived-At: List-Archive: List-Post: --===============5628494633129588409== Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha256; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="a6C86nxAmgnnuK6+" Content-Disposition: inline --a6C86nxAmgnnuK6+ Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi Kieran Iam adding Jonatas to the CC, as he suggested the SoW framework for everyth= ing. Maybe he can clarify it. more reply from me at the end On Sun, Jan 28, 2024 at 03:54:20PM +0000, Kieran Kunhya wrote: > On Sun, 28 Jan 2024 at 03:26, Michael Niedermayer > wrote: >=20 > > Hi all > > > > We are offered to apply for a sponsorship of FFmpeg by the Sovereign Te= ch > > Fund (STF). > > > > Please read the following to get a better understanding what STF is abo= ut: > > (In short it is about maintenance and sustainability, not features) > > https://www.sovereigntechfund.de/programs/applications > > > > As some probably already know, Thilo has worked with STF to work out > > many details of this. SPI will handle the financials for FFmpeg. > > Everyone willing to benefit from this sponsorship must not be a US > > sanctioned > > entity or in a US sanctioned country. And must sign a contractor agreem= ent > > and simplified SoW with SPI. > > "A SOW purpose is to protect the contracted from doing a > > work and not getting paid, and to protect the contractor from paying fo= r a > > work which wasn't wanted" > > > > At this point, what we need is a list of Projects so we can submit an > > application to STF > > at or before 12th Feb. (at the 14th they have a meeting and will review > > our submission) > > What STF told us, they need ATM is: > > > > - A scope of work for the project to defined before hand for the upcomi= ng > > review and eventually a contract. It doesn=E2=80=99t have to be tied to= specific > > people. > > - The contract STF will sign with SPI will be a service agreement based= on > > that SOW and milestones. Payment of invoices will be contingent and aft= er > > delivery (aka performance) of agreed upon milestones. > > > > My suggestion is that we create a Trac WIKI page similar to the ideas > > page for GSoC. >=20 >=20 > " To receive funding from the Sovereign Tech Fund, technologies must be > under-supplied or threatened by other circumstances, acute or long-term, > such as market consolidation or severe dependencies. The lack of support > and resources or technical alternatives places the technologies in a > vulnerable state that threatens the existence and sustainability of the > project." >=20 > I read that as STF is there to support maintenance of open source project= s, > not just another GSoC wishlist. >=20 > So work like Anton's threading, YUVJ removal etc, that couldn't be funded > via bounties as they have no direct commercial value but require expertise > in the codebase. Yes, thats also how i understand it. Also ongoing maintenance or various things, infrastructure work and so on possibly. Maybe a case would also be our fuzzer coverage is broken since forever as googles constraints on disk and timeout dont allow it. This is something that would require a dedicated effort to investigate possible solutions. > Statements of Work and milestones (by definition) are for features. The SoW suggestion/need came from a lawyer that jonatas asked IIUC. so i can just suggest to put work like what you list above into a SOW like framework. Or maybe Jonatas can clarify, in case i misunderstood thx [...] --=20 Michael GnuPG fingerprint: 9FF2128B147EF6730BADF133611EC787040B0FAB Nations do behave wisely once they have exhausted all other alternatives.= =20 -- Abba Eban --a6C86nxAmgnnuK6+ Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- iF0EABEIAB0WIQSf8hKLFH72cwut8TNhHseHBAsPqwUCZbaK/QAKCRBhHseHBAsP q8gxAKCbk0YNbgHmUT1AgE8suupvBlCY6gCeM+oTIbdFtmPcpzaJvxYs+Yx2Pbs= =OtJr -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --a6C86nxAmgnnuK6+-- --===============5628494633129588409== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline _______________________________________________ ffmpeg-devel mailing list ffmpeg-devel@ffmpeg.org https://ffmpeg.org/mailman/listinfo/ffmpeg-devel To unsubscribe, visit link above, or email ffmpeg-devel-request@ffmpeg.org with subject "unsubscribe". --===============5628494633129588409==--