From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from ffbox0-bg.mplayerhq.hu (ffbox0-bg.ffmpeg.org [79.124.17.100]) by master.gitmailbox.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2201A4857D for ; Sat, 6 Jan 2024 18:26:51 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [127.0.1.1] (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ffbox0-bg.mplayerhq.hu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 50B6868CCCF; Sat, 6 Jan 2024 20:26:49 +0200 (EET) Received: from relay6-d.mail.gandi.net (relay6-d.mail.gandi.net [217.70.183.198]) by ffbox0-bg.mplayerhq.hu (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 9B64768C5FF for ; Sat, 6 Jan 2024 20:26:43 +0200 (EET) Received: by mail.gandi.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id EB601C0002 for ; Sat, 6 Jan 2024 18:26:42 +0000 (UTC) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=niedermayer.cc; s=gm1; t=1704565603; h=from:from:reply-to:subject:subject:date:date:message-id:message-id: to:to:cc:mime-version:mime-version:content-type:content-type: in-reply-to:in-reply-to:references:references; bh=rHryH6b5nyXKtP11WVC7U3nm4Jxzr4sO+oBWEJSsUFk=; b=UNOTmXJz3fMhocXhzKeMSwEwPY48IZHf4EUvSNFu46kqj+OL4CjVwvvtMGzrrU2Aon8hbT nDm1ZUVAoBfSOl9m4VsnLoBoBQslaYlZ/JiR15EWnAK4dh+q0DxKev8hi5O7rVAraTZ2xK 6QWCFfH7zfUj73ohJvbcOds0WCVWjVfGW5KUZ2HbQ4PTmOho4fWwQWBkPfo/FRXrlu0NlM joEf3KQP9ez+ij8Mu0IuyryPASLqfs/JRa4nsIjp2+9pZeEv/4qNAlR5VKNeOY1pF802UL S3rKoxaDtqtRzeYr6SdnwelHHyWhzwzKDoF9KDowuDtgIZgWgLJl2g7wfD6RTA== Date: Sat, 6 Jan 2024 19:26:42 +0100 From: Michael Niedermayer To: FFmpeg development discussions and patches Message-ID: <20240106182642.GK6420@pb2> References: <1786204.uqgHB7WpJ2@basile.remlab.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <1786204.uqgHB7WpJ2@basile.remlab.net> X-GND-Sasl: michael@niedermayer.cc Subject: Re: [FFmpeg-devel] Hardware purchase request: AVX512-capable laptop X-BeenThere: ffmpeg-devel@ffmpeg.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: FFmpeg development discussions and patches List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Reply-To: FFmpeg development discussions and patches Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============2086463290319974423==" Errors-To: ffmpeg-devel-bounces@ffmpeg.org Sender: "ffmpeg-devel" Archived-At: List-Archive: List-Post: --===============2086463290319974423== Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha256; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="rbnuKbTS42rgQRRy" Content-Disposition: inline --rbnuKbTS42rgQRRy Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Sat, Jan 06, 2024 at 08:11:51PM +0200, R=E9mi Denis-Courmont wrote: > Le lauantaina 6. tammikuuta 2024, 18.21.00 EET Lynne a =E9crit : > > As for whether this is a lifestyle choice, we generally pay for anything > > that involves conferences, from train tickets, planes, parking, and > > sometimes for location/stand rent. >=20 > I would personally agree that representing FFmpeg at (non-FFmpeg-specific= )=20 > conferences is a choice of life style. But it is normal to refund reasona= ble=20 > expenses made to represent the project. >=20 > > I'm asking for a useful bit of permanent hardware. >=20 > I don't question that providing you with one development system with the= =20 > relevant Vulkan hardware support and AVX-512 is (or was) justified. If yo= u do=20 > all the work for free (or paid by some other entity than FFmpeg), that's= =20 > indeed excellent ROI. >=20 > But the "business" case for a *second* system with all the disadvantages = of a=20 > laptop is frankly not so clear. I think some kind of remotely usable system does make sense for every volun= teer who wants to work. It simply results in more available time for that work. Even i (who doesnt travel volunteerly around) have needed and used my noteb= ook for FFmpeg away from my desktop system many times. When ive spend some time in appartments of other familiy members, when i ha= d to change my own apartment due to very noisy neighbors and so forth Maybe a compromise would be a cheap laptop that is just used to login and access the more powerfull hardware via SSH ? But IMO having _nothing_ to work on FFmpeg when one wants to work on FFmpeg seems a kind of bad setup for FFmpeg. thx [...] --=20 Michael GnuPG fingerprint: 9FF2128B147EF6730BADF133611EC787040B0FAB Breaking DRM is a little like attempting to break through a door even though the window is wide open and the only thing in the house is a bunch of things you dont want and which you would get tomorrow for free anyway --rbnuKbTS42rgQRRy Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- iF0EABEIAB0WIQSf8hKLFH72cwut8TNhHseHBAsPqwUCZZmbWwAKCRBhHseHBAsP qyCEAKCUBEBKb8mXgB9atT/p8Ood6BU4JACdEjEf216bR4Xcu8lupimpwammRVE= =4HKB -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --rbnuKbTS42rgQRRy-- --===============2086463290319974423== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline _______________________________________________ ffmpeg-devel mailing list ffmpeg-devel@ffmpeg.org https://ffmpeg.org/mailman/listinfo/ffmpeg-devel To unsubscribe, visit link above, or email ffmpeg-devel-request@ffmpeg.org with subject "unsubscribe". --===============2086463290319974423==--