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From: Michael Niedermayer <michael@niedermayer.cc>
To: FFmpeg development discussions and patches <ffmpeg-devel@ffmpeg.org>
Subject: Re: [FFmpeg-devel] [RFC] fftools/ffmpeg and libavdevice/sdl issue
Date: Tue, 19 Dec 2023 17:58:40 +0100
Message-ID: <20231219165840.GY6420@pb2> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <84CD517B-90ED-4000-B8C7-B85073DACC41@remlab.net>


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On Tue, Dec 19, 2023 at 09:23:29AM +0200, Rémi Denis-Courmont wrote:
> 
> 
> Le 18 décembre 2023 21:58:39 GMT+02:00, Michael Niedermayer <michael@niedermayer.cc> a écrit :
> >On Mon, Dec 18, 2023 at 06:33:45PM +0100, Anton Khirnov wrote:
> >> Quoting Stefano Sabatini (2023-12-16 16:18:07)
> >> > On date Thursday 2023-12-14 10:35:56 +0100, Nicolas George wrote:
> >> > > Anton Khirnov (12023-12-14):
> >> > [...]
[...]
> >does any other decoder, encoder, muxer, demuxer, filter ... use an
> >external lib thats not fully thread safe ? or has funny limitations ?
> 
> >The last option would maybe be to run some sort of AVExecutor on the
> >main thread and allow things like muxers to que operations on it.
> >The  muxers would totally unchanged be running on a random thread
> >but que some operation on the main thread if an external lib, driver or
> >other needs it.
> 
> To me, that counts as a horrible hack for a library to have, TBH. And if nothing other than SDL on Mac would even need this, then it's very much an ad-hoc kludge.

lets take a step back here

The problem is not SDL, the problem is any GUI on the MAC am i correct ?

so the idea is that we cannot access any GUI in any code from anything in
libavformat and probably all other libs, ever

no debug with graphical output
no vissualizuation of anything
no devices
no libs that expose anything that would need a GUI for configuration

thx

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  parent reply	other threads:[~2023-12-19 16:58 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 28+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2023-12-12 17:27 Zhao Zhili
2023-12-12 18:04 ` Nicolas George
2023-12-13  4:19   ` Zhao Zhili
2023-12-13 17:30   ` [FFmpeg-devel] Mailinglist conduct [was: [RFC] fftools/ffmpeg and libavdevice/sdl issue] Ronald S. Bultje
2023-12-13  9:08 ` [FFmpeg-devel] [RFC] fftools/ffmpeg and libavdevice/sdl issue Anton Khirnov
2023-12-13  9:31   ` Zhao Zhili
2023-12-13 10:06     ` Anton Khirnov
2023-12-13 10:37       ` Zhao Zhili
2023-12-13 10:45         ` Nicolas George
2023-12-13 10:49         ` Anton Khirnov
2023-12-13  9:44   ` Nicolas George
2023-12-14  0:47   ` Stefano Sabatini
2023-12-14  7:48     ` Anton Khirnov
2023-12-14  9:35       ` Nicolas George
2023-12-16 15:18         ` Stefano Sabatini
2023-12-18 17:33           ` Anton Khirnov
2023-12-18 19:58             ` Michael Niedermayer
2023-12-18 20:02               ` Nicolas George
2023-12-19  7:23               ` Rémi Denis-Courmont
2023-12-19  9:29                 ` Nicolas George
2023-12-19 10:43                   ` Rémi Denis-Courmont
2023-12-19 12:51                     ` Nicolas George
2023-12-19 14:47                       ` Rémi Denis-Courmont
2023-12-19 16:58                 ` Michael Niedermayer [this message]
2023-12-19 18:48                   ` Rémi Denis-Courmont
2023-12-19 18:55                     ` Nicolas George
2023-12-19 19:36                     ` Michael Niedermayer
2023-12-15 12:37     ` Alexander Strasser via ffmpeg-devel

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