From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from ffbox0-bg.mplayerhq.hu (ffbox0-bg.ffmpeg.org [79.124.17.100]) by master.gitmailbox.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 040294755F for ; Sat, 11 Nov 2023 17:29:05 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [127.0.1.1] (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ffbox0-bg.mplayerhq.hu (Postfix) with ESMTP id D4C5868CCB1; Sat, 11 Nov 2023 19:29:02 +0200 (EET) Received: from relay3-d.mail.gandi.net (relay3-d.mail.gandi.net [217.70.183.195]) by ffbox0-bg.mplayerhq.hu (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 8872068CA4C for ; Sat, 11 Nov 2023 19:28:55 +0200 (EET) Received: by mail.gandi.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id DA39160005 for ; Sat, 11 Nov 2023 17:28:54 +0000 (UTC) Date: Sat, 11 Nov 2023 18:28:54 +0100 From: Michael Niedermayer To: FFmpeg development discussions and patches Message-ID: <20231111172854.GV3543730@pb2> References: <169917627924.11195.16676364527851497705@lain.khirnov.net> <2231631.McIRpOxQxk@basile.remlab.net> <20231109174153.GB3543730@pb2> <4683214.UXO7NAtAyn@basile.remlab.net> <20231109181535.GD3543730@pb2> <1c1c9a24-780c-4db6-8365-07da86d17a12@betaapp.fastmail.com> <20231109224938.GI3543730@pb2> <20231111022435.GS3543730@pb2> MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: X-GND-Sasl: michael@niedermayer.cc Subject: Re: [FFmpeg-devel] [ANNOUNCE] upcoming vote: extra members for GA X-BeenThere: ffmpeg-devel@ffmpeg.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: FFmpeg development discussions and patches List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Reply-To: FFmpeg development discussions and patches Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============8484522048462693361==" Errors-To: ffmpeg-devel-bounces@ffmpeg.org Sender: "ffmpeg-devel" Archived-At: List-Archive: List-Post: --===============8484522048462693361== Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha256; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="MI7gJlDpP0I057Hr" Content-Disposition: inline --MI7gJlDpP0I057Hr Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Sat, Nov 11, 2023 at 12:06:03AM -0300, James Almer wrote: > On 11/10/2023 11:24 PM, Michael Niedermayer wrote: > > On Thu, Nov 09, 2023 at 11:58:29PM +0100, Jean-Baptiste Kempf wrote: > > > On Thu, 9 Nov 2023, at 23:49, Michael Niedermayer wrote: > > > > On Thu, Nov 09, 2023 at 08:30:15PM +0100, Jean-Baptiste Kempf wrote: > > > > >=20 > > > > >=20 > > > > > On Thu, 9 Nov 2023, at 19:15, Michael Niedermayer wrote: > > > > > > On Thu, Nov 09, 2023 at 07:53:33PM +0200, R=E9mi Denis-Courmont= wrote: > > > > > > > Le torstaina 9. marraskuuta 2023, 19.41.53 EET Michael Nieder= mayer a =E9crit : > > > > > > [...] > > > > > > > If you think some people should be added, as far as I am conc= erned, you are of > > > > > > > course welcome to nudge them via private message to friendly = remind them that > > > > > > > they can nominate themselves. > > > > > >=20 > > > > > > so what i will do then is > > > > > > If a developer was in the GA before || are just under the thres= hold but > > > > > > active || are part of the infra teams and packaging > > > > > > i will leave them in the list to be added (that is also what jb= suggested) > > > > >=20 > > > > > Of course, this seems reasonable. > > > > >=20 > > > > > > I will contact them and ask if they want to be in the GA and > > > > >=20 > > > > > You should contact who you want, or think is necessary. > > > > > But they should step forward and say so publicly that they are ca= ndidates. > > [...] > >=20 > > > Also, at that time, I did not bring a list of 20 candidates who are, = for the most part, inactive. > > > While asking "trust me, I will get their approval in private, but the= y will not speak on the mailing list". > >=20 > > ok, maybe we should just slow down a bit delay the vote by a few days a= nd > > discuss this to reduce peoples anxiety? :) > >=20 > > Lets take a step back and look at what i suggested and discuss this a b= it first > > I also have to say that this looks a bit like Xenophobia to me to be ho= nest. >=20 > How did you even get to that conclusion? There was a swift and defensive reaction from multiple people when i suggested to nominate several of the main authors of FFmpeg to the GA. (Who many people have had no contact with for many years and many probably never had) People who interact regularly even if they dont like each other dont react that way. ive over the last decades seen this behavior commonly occur when one group = is confronted with the potential introduction to their territory of another gr= oup they have had little recent contact. This seems a fundamental, unconcious and instinctive reaction humans have. I called it Xenophobia, cuz it seemed like a similar concept. Do you disagree ? (not about the term but this sort of behavior is happenin= g) thx [...] --=20 Michael GnuPG fingerprint: 9FF2128B147EF6730BADF133611EC787040B0FAB The greatest way to live with honor in this world is to be what we pretend to be. -- Socrates --MI7gJlDpP0I057Hr Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- iF0EABEIAB0WIQSf8hKLFH72cwut8TNhHseHBAsPqwUCZU+50gAKCRBhHseHBAsP q0lEAJ9h2iZ7xLRfEBMa/+uuOkmJnDV+rgCdHAVu+JQmtHPzu0rEXi5mEDXxJ/M= =1GqO -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --MI7gJlDpP0I057Hr-- --===============8484522048462693361== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline _______________________________________________ ffmpeg-devel mailing list ffmpeg-devel@ffmpeg.org https://ffmpeg.org/mailman/listinfo/ffmpeg-devel To unsubscribe, visit link above, or email ffmpeg-devel-request@ffmpeg.org with subject "unsubscribe". --===============8484522048462693361==--