On Sat, Nov 04, 2023 at 06:58:11PM +0100, Anton Khirnov wrote: > Quoting Michael Niedermayer (2023-11-02 20:53:46) > > On Sun, Oct 29, 2023 at 10:33:12AM +0100, Anton Khirnov wrote: > > > Hi all, > > > updating the answers according to received comments: > > > > > > vote question (unchanged): > > > How do we update the list of active members of the general assembly? > > > > > > Available answers: > > > * twice a year (1st Jan & 1st July, 0:00 UTC); > > > as an exception, the list will also be updated immediately after this > > > vote > > > (suggested at VDD, added time and the exceptional update clause) > > > > > * before each vote > > > (suggested at VDD) > > > > This is not well defined > > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Well-defined_expression > > > > "before each vote" is not a single unique point in time > > > > First what is meant by "vote", theres a annoucement of some > > intend to make a vote, there would be a discussion, there could > > be a 2nd annoucement theres a period where people can propose > > new options. Then the vote start is announced at some point > > the actual vote start then also happens. > > > > So we have many reference points > > then "before" is everything before, even a year is "before" > > > > and exactly at the time when the vote actually starts is impossible > > because at that time the list must already be known and entered > > into the vote system > > > > I guess this doesnt matter if the option doesnt win ... > > It seems obvious to me that the intent is "generate the list immediately > before the starting the vote". iam sure if it is obvious to you that will prevent disagreements and also that "immediately before" is a well defined physical point in time is 1 minute before "immediately before" ? (not sure that can be done) is 1 second before "immediately before" ? (though this is not doable in practice) is 1 hour before "immediately before" ? is 1 day before "immediately before" ? is 1 week before "immediately before" ? is 1 month before "immediately before" ? is 1 year before "immediately before" ? > Since the script generating the voter > list has a granularity of one day, it does not matter at what precise > instant is the list generated, as long as it is on the same day as > starting the vote. How did you conclude this to be true ? (obviously its not true but iam curious) but try yourself: (all in one day you will get 2 differnt GAs) git init for i in `seq 20` ; do echo A >> A ; git add A ; git commit --author 'mitchikaku A' -m message ; done perl ../tools/general_assembly.pl # 2023-11-05 edc68c67988928560757eb624adeaf645b90740d mitchikaku for i in `seq 20` ; do echo A >> A ; git add A ; git commit --author 'kei A' -m message ; done perl ../tools/general_assembly.pl # 2023-11-05 3a39fd2af355a78c8e7eddae03f1fc056e100014 kei mitchikaku thx [...] -- Michael GnuPG fingerprint: 9FF2128B147EF6730BADF133611EC787040B0FAB Some people wanted to paint the bikeshed green, some blue and some pink. People argued and fought, when they finally agreed, only rust was left.