From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from ffbox0-bg.mplayerhq.hu (ffbox0-bg.ffmpeg.org [79.124.17.100]) by master.gitmailbox.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5C21A47A24 for ; Sun, 29 Oct 2023 15:40:21 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [127.0.1.1] (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ffbox0-bg.mplayerhq.hu (Postfix) with ESMTP id AF41E68CA99; Sun, 29 Oct 2023 17:40:18 +0200 (EET) Received: from relay1-d.mail.gandi.net (relay1-d.mail.gandi.net [217.70.183.193]) by ffbox0-bg.mplayerhq.hu (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 64D81689BA8 for ; Sun, 29 Oct 2023 17:40:12 +0200 (EET) Received: by mail.gandi.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 53D0D240002 for ; Sun, 29 Oct 2023 15:40:11 +0000 (UTC) Date: Sun, 29 Oct 2023 16:40:10 +0100 From: Michael Niedermayer To: FFmpeg development discussions and patches Message-ID: <20231029154010.GJ3543730@pb2> References: <20231026154523.GI3543730@pb2> <4c66cd67-88fb-0702-8cc2-af8968f81791@mail.de> <20231028172103.GD3543730@pb2> MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: X-GND-Sasl: michael@niedermayer.cc Subject: Re: [FFmpeg-devel] [RFC] financial sustainability Plan A (SPI) X-BeenThere: ffmpeg-devel@ffmpeg.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: FFmpeg development discussions and patches List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Reply-To: FFmpeg development discussions and patches Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============6728499663010338102==" Errors-To: ffmpeg-devel-bounces@ffmpeg.org Sender: "ffmpeg-devel" Archived-At: List-Archive: List-Post: --===============6728499663010338102== Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha256; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="CRF9V17X3ZjzkjcY" Content-Disposition: inline --CRF9V17X3ZjzkjcY Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Sat, Oct 28, 2023 at 10:17:50PM +0100, Kieran Kunhya wrote: > On Sat, 28 Oct 2023 at 18:21, Michael Niedermayer > wrote: >=20 > > Hi ronald > > > > On Sat, Oct 28, 2023 at 12:43:15PM -0400, Ronald S. Bultje wrote: > > > Hi Thilo, > > > > > > On Sat, Oct 28, 2023 at 11:31=E2=80=AFAM Thilo Borgmann via ffmpeg-de= vel < > > > ffmpeg-devel@ffmpeg.org> wrote: > > > > > > > What this is about, is to set up a way to properly spend the SPI mo= ney > > > > aside > > > > from travel & hw. Why we should not do it because some companies > > > > beurocracy, I > > > > cannot see. > > > > > > > > > > I sincerely don't think the above description is what Kieran meant wh= en > > he > > > talked about sustainability at Demuxed, which this thread seems to be= a > > > response to. > > > > a quick reply here. I have not watched kierans presentation from demuxed > > yet. > > So theres absolutly no chance anything i wrote till now can be a respon= e to > > it. > > >=20 > For the record, I gave the Demuxed lightning talk on Wednesday 25th Octob= er > at 1400 PST (2100 UTC). > The first email in this chain was on Thursday 26th October at 1845 EEST > (1545 UTC). We should make a more complete timeline and then do proper statistics to analyze it :) Iam not offended by this, if people want to investigate where similarities came from. in fact i still didnt listen to the talk (but i will once i find= the time) what similarities do you see ? is it just the word sustainability and the general subject ? or more ? Also giving 100 people the problem of financial sustainability for FFmpeg how many different solutions do you expect ? I found 4 (legal) ones and this was the first (which is why it says "A" in the subject. I did reject several probably illegal ideas like ICOs ... The word sustainability is quite rare it occured only 4 times on ffmpeg IRC 3 of these are a week before my mail and a few days before my SWS cleanup mail. And maybe also on VDD, i dont remember. What i do remember is that roanld mentioned sustainability, "no longer crashing with our parents. some of us have kids" on okt 11th on IRC privatly to me i have the log still and can post the line if ronald agrees appendix A searching for sustainability on IRC: FreeNode-#ffmpeg-devel.log:Jun 11 18:41:28 About: Archive - Clo= ud - Formats - sustainability - Outsourcing about? or is it about spending SPI money that we have (which is what thilo = seems to imply) and then maybe see if we can get more, although that's not = the primary goal? or some mix of the two? libera.chat-#ffmpeg-devel.log:Okt 09 23:12:59 that comment on daemon4= 04's sustainability linkedin post misses the point a bit ? libera.chat-#ffmpeg-devel.log:Okt 10 03:00:47 durandal_1707: it jumps= from (ffmpeg/videolan dev) sustainability to storage, av1, routing and har= dware dev. I don't follow that jump, I guess libera.chat-#ffmpeg-devel.log:Okt 10 03:18:10 BBB: I think confus= ion over the word sustainability appendix B the SWS cleanup mail "1013 21:19 To FFmpeg devel (2,3K) [FFmpeg-devel] SWS cleanup / SPI Funding= Suggestion" This also had some replies that inspired some parts thx [...] --=20 Michael GnuPG fingerprint: 9FF2128B147EF6730BADF133611EC787040B0FAB Homeopathy is like voting while filling the ballot out with transparent ink. Sometimes the outcome one wanted occurs. 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