From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from ffbox0-bg.mplayerhq.hu (ffbox0-bg.ffmpeg.org [79.124.17.100]) by master.gitmailbox.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id C4CB14799F for ; Sat, 28 Oct 2023 18:02:07 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [127.0.1.1] (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ffbox0-bg.mplayerhq.hu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2CA5568CBA1; Sat, 28 Oct 2023 21:02:05 +0300 (EEST) Received: from relay1-d.mail.gandi.net (unknown [217.70.183.193]) by ffbox0-bg.mplayerhq.hu (Postfix) with ESMTPS id EF20368CA99 for ; Sat, 28 Oct 2023 21:01:58 +0300 (EEST) Received: by mail.gandi.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 397A4240003 for ; Sat, 28 Oct 2023 18:01:57 +0000 (UTC) Date: Sat, 28 Oct 2023 20:01:57 +0200 From: Michael Niedermayer To: FFmpeg development discussions and patches Message-ID: <20231028180157.GE3543730@pb2> References: <20231026154523.GI3543730@pb2> <4c66cd67-88fb-0702-8cc2-af8968f81791@mail.de> <20231028172103.GD3543730@pb2> MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <20231028172103.GD3543730@pb2> X-GND-Sasl: michael@niedermayer.cc Subject: Re: [FFmpeg-devel] [RFC] financial sustainability Plan A (SPI) X-BeenThere: ffmpeg-devel@ffmpeg.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: FFmpeg development discussions and patches List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Reply-To: FFmpeg development discussions and patches Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============0021997398486545800==" Errors-To: ffmpeg-devel-bounces@ffmpeg.org Sender: "ffmpeg-devel" Archived-At: List-Archive: List-Post: --===============0021997398486545800== Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha256; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="fmh73W6i4sns98ym" Content-Disposition: inline --fmh73W6i4sns98ym Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Sat, Oct 28, 2023 at 07:21:03PM +0200, Michael Niedermayer wrote: > Hi ronald >=20 > On Sat, Oct 28, 2023 at 12:43:15PM -0400, Ronald S. Bultje wrote: > > Hi Thilo, > >=20 > > On Sat, Oct 28, 2023 at 11:31=E2=80=AFAM Thilo Borgmann via ffmpeg-deve= l < > > ffmpeg-devel@ffmpeg.org> wrote: > >=20 > > > What this is about, is to set up a way to properly spend the SPI money > > > aside > > > from travel & hw. Why we should not do it because some companies > > > beurocracy, I > > > cannot see. > > > > >=20 > > I sincerely don't think the above description is what Kieran meant when= he > > talked about sustainability at Demuxed, which this thread seems to be a > > response to. >=20 > a quick reply here. I have not watched kierans presentation from demuxed = yet. > So theres absolutly no chance anything i wrote till now can be a respone = to > it. some more words about what the intend of this plan was, again not a respone to any presentation of anyone else Donations from people vs companies: both really. Peoples donations would only matter if we can increase awareness of people using FFmpeg. We have over a billion users but they dont know it. if each user gives us 1cent per year our sustainability is solved. So driving awareness alone would solve this already, even if only 0.1% of users would donate 10$ per year that would do. companies? will any company donate 500k$ per year into SPI? Most companies will be very hesitatnt before seeing us using funds effectively from SPI. Thats why we need to show this And yes many companies will prefer doing it over a company But some will favor a donation to 501(3) where everything is transparent. I cannot understand the hostility that kieran has towards this plan. And i find his toxicity towards it very troubbling thx [...] --=20 Michael GnuPG fingerprint: 9FF2128B147EF6730BADF133611EC787040B0FAB The day soldiers stop bringing you their problems is the day you have stopp= ed=20 leading them. They have either lost confidence that you can help or conclud= ed=20 you do not care. Either case is a failure of leadership. - Colin Powell --fmh73W6i4sns98ym Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- iF0EABEIAB0WIQSf8hKLFH72cwut8TNhHseHBAsPqwUCZT1MkQAKCRBhHseHBAsP qzFbAJ9wM0tXQxQW4TT7QePN9ToX84G0eQCfUBfYj8lYixzYw9zn8SuW3+4Rn1w= =qGw4 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --fmh73W6i4sns98ym-- --===============0021997398486545800== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline _______________________________________________ ffmpeg-devel mailing list ffmpeg-devel@ffmpeg.org https://ffmpeg.org/mailman/listinfo/ffmpeg-devel To unsubscribe, visit link above, or email ffmpeg-devel-request@ffmpeg.org with subject "unsubscribe". --===============0021997398486545800==--