On Sat, Oct 28, 2023 at 07:21:03PM +0200, Michael Niedermayer wrote:
> Hi ronald
> 
> On Sat, Oct 28, 2023 at 12:43:15PM -0400, Ronald S. Bultje wrote:
> > Hi Thilo,
> > 
> > On Sat, Oct 28, 2023 at 11:31 AM Thilo Borgmann via ffmpeg-devel <
> > ffmpeg-devel@ffmpeg.org> wrote:
> > 
> > > What this is about, is to set up a way to properly spend the SPI money
> > > aside
> > > from travel & hw. Why we should not do it because some companies
> > > beurocracy, I
> > > cannot see.
> > >
> > 
> > I sincerely don't think the above description is what Kieran meant when he
> > talked about sustainability at Demuxed, which this thread seems to be a
> > response to.
> 
> a quick reply here. I have not watched kierans presentation from demuxed yet.
> So theres absolutly no chance anything i wrote till now can be a respone to
> it.

some more words about what the intend of this plan was, again not a respone
to any presentation of anyone else

Donations from people vs companies: both really.

Peoples donations would only matter if we can increase awareness of people
using FFmpeg. We have over a billion users but they dont know it.
if each user gives us 1cent per year our sustainability is solved.
So driving awareness alone would solve this already, even if only 0.1%
of users would donate 10$ per year that would do.

companies?
will any company donate 500k$ per year into SPI? Most companies will be
very hesitatnt before seeing us using funds effectively from SPI.
Thats why we need to show this
And yes many companies will prefer doing it over a company
But some will favor a donation to 501(3) where everything is transparent.

I cannot understand the hostility that kieran has towards this plan.
And i find his toxicity towards it very troubbling

thx

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