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From: Niklas Haas <ffmpeg@haasn.xyz>
To: ffmpeg-devel@ffmpeg.org
Subject: Re: [FFmpeg-devel] [PATCH v2 02/13] avcodec: add extended AVCodec color metadata
Date: Sat, 14 Oct 2023 12:29:15 +0200
Message-ID: <20231014122915.GB16175@haasn.xyz> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <AS8P250MB074469156B0B9002222575A18FD2A@AS8P250MB0744.EURP250.PROD.OUTLOOK.COM>

On Fri, 13 Oct 2023 19:10:33 +0200 Andreas Rheinhardt <andreas.rheinhardt@outlook.com> wrote:
> This design has several drawbacks:
> 1. It adds stuff that will only be set by a tiny minority of AVCodec's
> to all of them.
> 2. It is based around the underlying assumption that the set of
> permissible states (tupels) is a cartesian product of a set of color
> spaces, a set of color ranges etc. This is wrong: E.g. VP9 disallows
> limited-range RGB (it is syntactically impossible to set the color range
> when using RGB color space).
> 3. I don't see how the MJPEG encoder behaviour where the valid formats
> de facto depend upon strictness can be encoded in this way; isn't the
> aim to get rid of the necessity of the workaround in ffmpeg cli?
> 
> 1. and 2. suggests using some form of function that returns a list of
> supported tupels; if said function uses an AVCodecContext* parameter,
> said list can depend upon the state of the AVCodecContext given to it,
> thereby solving 3. to the extent that one can get the supported
> combinations given AVCodecContext options (but I do not see a good way
> to signal which options modify the supported combinations).

There are two other designs I can think of:

1. Enumerate all possible combinations as a list. To avoid combinatoric
   explosion, setting any field to 'UNSPECIFIED' implies no restriction
   on that field. So the default (no list) would be equivalent to a list
   with a single entry containing values of UNSPECIFIED for every entry.

2. Provide a single function which merely checks if a given combination
   is supported or not.

#2 would work for the short term but runs into the same risk of
exponential explosion if we need to start finding a common format
between different filters.

So maybe #1 is the correct approach here. It would also simplify
extending the filter API, as we would only need one set of list
managing/merging/compat testing boilerplate for all of the colorspace
metadata.

I will try implementing #1 on a separate branch.
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  parent reply	other threads:[~2023-10-14 10:29 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 37+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2023-10-13 14:24 [FFmpeg-devel] [PATCH v2 00/13] YUVJ removal Niklas Haas
2023-10-13 14:24 ` [FFmpeg-devel] [PATCH v2 01/13] avfilter/vf_scale: don't change range by default Niklas Haas
2023-10-13 14:24 ` [FFmpeg-devel] [PATCH v2 02/13] avcodec: add extended AVCodec color metadata Niklas Haas
2023-10-13 17:10   ` Andreas Rheinhardt
2023-10-13 18:52     ` Vittorio Giovara
2023-10-14 10:29     ` Niklas Haas [this message]
2023-10-14 11:46     ` Niklas Haas
2023-10-20 13:54       ` Anton Khirnov
2023-10-20 14:11         ` Michael Niedermayer
2023-10-20 14:01     ` Anton Khirnov
2023-10-14 13:31   ` Leo Izen
2023-10-14 13:40     ` Niklas Haas
2023-10-13 14:24 ` [FFmpeg-devel] [PATCH v2 03/13] fftools/ffmpeg_filter: auto-convert range if needed Niklas Haas
2023-10-13 14:24 ` [FFmpeg-devel] [PATCH v2 04/13] lavfi/vf_colorspace: support prim/trc/csp passthrough Niklas Haas
2023-10-13 14:24 ` [FFmpeg-devel] [PATCH v2 05/13] fftools/ffmpeg_filter: auto-insert colorspace filter Niklas Haas
2023-10-13 14:24 ` [FFmpeg-devel] [PATCH v2 06/13] avcodec/encode: enforce AVCodec capabilities at encode time Niklas Haas
2023-10-13 14:24 ` [FFmpeg-devel] [PATCH v2 07/13] tests/fate: force MPEG range for rawvideo tests Niklas Haas
2023-10-13 14:24 ` [FFmpeg-devel] [PATCH v2 08/13] tests/fate: allow conversion filters in jpg-icc test Niklas Haas
2023-10-13 14:24 ` [FFmpeg-devel] [PATCH v2 09/13] lavc: set color_ranges for YUVJ-only codecs Niklas Haas
2023-10-13 14:24 ` [FFmpeg-devel] [PATCH v2 10/13] lavfi/lavu/lavc: remove YUVJ pixel formats Niklas Haas
2023-10-13 14:24 ` [FFmpeg-devel] [PATCH v2 11/13] swscale/utils: simplify JPEG handling function Niklas Haas
2023-10-13 14:24 ` [FFmpeg-devel] [PATCH v2 12/13] tests/fate: remove unused YUVJ ref files Niklas Haas
2023-10-13 14:24 ` [FFmpeg-devel] [PATCH v2 13/13] avutil/pixdesc: remove old yuvj pixel format check Niklas Haas
2023-10-13 18:33 ` [FFmpeg-devel] [PATCH v2 00/13] YUVJ removal Vittorio Giovara
2023-10-13 21:14   ` Lynne
2023-10-13 22:21     ` Vittorio Giovara
2023-10-14 13:11       ` Lynne
2023-10-14 15:15         ` Vittorio Giovara
2023-10-14 15:18           ` Lynne
2023-10-20 12:14           ` Ronald S. Bultje
2023-10-20 16:14             ` Vittorio Giovara
2023-10-20 23:13               ` Ronald S. Bultje
2023-10-21 23:20                 ` Michael Niedermayer
2023-10-24  0:56                   ` Vittorio Giovara
2023-10-25 22:15                     ` Michael Niedermayer
2023-10-20 11:30   ` Niklas Haas
2023-10-20 16:17     ` Vittorio Giovara

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