From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from ffbox0-bg.mplayerhq.hu (ffbox0-bg.ffmpeg.org [79.124.17.100]) by master.gitmailbox.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 30AD147489 for ; Tue, 10 Oct 2023 11:56:56 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [127.0.1.1] (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ffbox0-bg.mplayerhq.hu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3B88968C974; Tue, 10 Oct 2023 14:56:54 +0300 (EEST) Received: from relay7-d.mail.gandi.net (relay7-d.mail.gandi.net [217.70.183.200]) by ffbox0-bg.mplayerhq.hu (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 68D8B68C6F8 for ; Tue, 10 Oct 2023 14:56:47 +0300 (EEST) Received: by mail.gandi.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id AE24020007 for ; Tue, 10 Oct 2023 11:56:46 +0000 (UTC) Date: Tue, 10 Oct 2023 13:56:45 +0200 From: Michael Niedermayer To: FFmpeg development discussions and patches Message-ID: <20231010115645.GE3543730@pb2> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-GND-Sasl: michael@niedermayer.cc Subject: [FFmpeg-devel] [RFC] AG (GA?) VOTE X-BeenThere: ffmpeg-devel@ffmpeg.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: FFmpeg development discussions and patches List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Reply-To: FFmpeg development discussions and patches Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============0538665784119760316==" Errors-To: ffmpeg-devel-bounces@ffmpeg.org Sender: "ffmpeg-devel" Archived-At: List-Archive: List-Post: --===============0538665784119760316== Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha256; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="LuH5Zozo3bmn6wjd" Content-Disposition: inline --LuH5Zozo3bmn6wjd Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi all a vote on the General Assembly composition was apparently initiated with a duration of 6 days, i saw this in my inbox: "1009 23:49 Jean-Baptiste K (3,4K) Poll: FFmpeg AG members rules" There was no real prior discussion on the mailing list about this. There are 2 choices which are similar (update the list before each vote and update it twice a year) And a 3rd option that is probably not what the "opposition" wants I think (use the 2020 version, never update) First its neccessary to give the community a chance to discuss the GA compo= sition choices, collect suggestions and then do a vote Now iam quite unprepared to really suggest something as i also didnt think = about this much or expect this vote now but at least something like * keep everyone who had vote rights but add active developers each jan/july Is a more honest choice for the "opposition" than "never update" But hey why this matters, you might ask ? just recently we discussed having the domain be controlled by the GA now someone started a vote with no prior discussion on the ML (there was di= scussion in VDD only) basically only one real option to choose and 6 days duration. You might be happy with this specific change here in this case but This is one reason why I was so scared in relation to the GA controlling the domain. The GA composition is a dynamic thing with the way its setup currently and with this, can easily become very different from what anyone expects. This year you spend all your time in FFmpeg and are part of the GA, next someone else makes all decissions about FFmpeg and you have no vote in it. ABout this vote, I think this vote should be paused and proper disscussion should start, IF there is a need to do this vote now. Debian uses 2 weeks minimum discussion and 2 weeks voting IIRC so thats a start point for important votes like this one. For unimporatnt things (like SDR) something like a 7 day vote if noone minds should be fine but for things critical to FFmpegs decission making, i do not think these should be rushed. Thanks --=20 Michael GnuPG fingerprint: 9FF2128B147EF6730BADF133611EC787040B0FAB What does censorship reveal? It reveals fear. -- Julian Assange --LuH5Zozo3bmn6wjd Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- iF0EABEIAB0WIQSf8hKLFH72cwut8TNhHseHBAsPqwUCZSU7+QAKCRBhHseHBAsP q7e+AJ96Z+f1QtRs1LBIcNPLrgpH4vRDeACeLI1RY0iwOMQDmuPcIfRJV5M7ca4= =S7Kf -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --LuH5Zozo3bmn6wjd-- --===============0538665784119760316== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline _______________________________________________ ffmpeg-devel mailing list ffmpeg-devel@ffmpeg.org https://ffmpeg.org/mailman/listinfo/ffmpeg-devel To unsubscribe, visit link above, or email ffmpeg-devel-request@ffmpeg.org with subject "unsubscribe". --===============0538665784119760316==--