From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from ffbox0-bg.mplayerhq.hu (ffbox0-bg.ffmpeg.org [79.124.17.100]) by master.gitmailbox.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 977D4479F8 for ; Thu, 28 Sep 2023 22:18:13 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [127.0.1.1] (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ffbox0-bg.mplayerhq.hu (Postfix) with ESMTP id E040E68CBD8; Fri, 29 Sep 2023 01:18:10 +0300 (EEST) Received: from relay6-d.mail.gandi.net (relay6-d.mail.gandi.net [217.70.183.198]) by ffbox0-bg.mplayerhq.hu (Postfix) with ESMTPS id EC7B668CA3C for ; Fri, 29 Sep 2023 01:18:04 +0300 (EEST) Received: by mail.gandi.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 491E3C0003 for ; Thu, 28 Sep 2023 22:18:03 +0000 (UTC) Date: Fri, 29 Sep 2023 00:18:03 +0200 From: Michael Niedermayer To: FFmpeg development discussions and patches Message-ID: <20230928221803.GA3543730@pb2> References: <20230923164344.GG3543730@pb2> <169589690228.6638.9407962520356451750@lain.khirnov.net> <20230928192835.GZ3543730@pb2> MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: X-GND-Sasl: michael@niedermayer.cc Subject: Re: [FFmpeg-devel] SDR lib comments X-BeenThere: ffmpeg-devel@ffmpeg.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: FFmpeg development discussions and patches List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Reply-To: FFmpeg development discussions and patches Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============8830158375498800247==" Errors-To: ffmpeg-devel-bounces@ffmpeg.org Sender: "ffmpeg-devel" Archived-At: List-Archive: List-Post: --===============8830158375498800247== Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha256; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="Do9hQ/bfCb4zBpLo" Content-Disposition: inline --Do9hQ/bfCb4zBpLo Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Fri, Sep 29, 2023 at 12:05:56AM +0300, R=E9mi Denis-Courmont wrote: >=20 >=20 > Le 28 septembre 2023 22:28:35 GMT+03:00, Michael Niedermayer a =E9crit=A0: > >On Thu, Sep 28, 2023 at 12:28:22PM +0200, Anton Khirnov wrote: > >> Quoting Michael Niedermayer (2023-09-23 18:43:44) > >> > Is a seperate library really the right choice for SDR in FFmpeg at t= his stage ? > >> >=20 > >> > Also code can always be moved into an seperate library > >>=20 > >> we've had postproc in the tree for ages, nobody maintains it or > >> cares about it, yet it seems impossible to get rid of it. > > > >what maintaince does it need ? > >i mean i know the code is ugly but what _needs_ to be changed? >=20 > This is rather disingenous, TBH. All non-trivial code needs maintenance. >=20 > If there is no formal proof that the code is perfect, then it's probably = bugged. And for the sake of the argument, if there were such a proof, it wo= uld need to be maintained as the code around changes, so either wayw that's= maintenance. >=20 > Then you also can't really ascertain that the code won't need fixes for f= uture build environments and code auditing tools. >=20 > And then you have all the more or less hidden costs of keeping code aroun= d, especially if it's unmaintained : people will enable it (if it's even di= sabled by default), hit problems and look for support. >=20 > And as a downstream OSS application developer, I'd really rather postproc= be officially and properly dropped, so I can justify dropping it downstrea= m as well. >=20 >=20 > But at least, postproc doesn't engender extra traffic on this mailing lis= t much at all. More or less nobody here can or wants to review or test your= SDR code. I think, more so than ffmpeg.git being ill-suited a source code = repository for SDR because it is so niche and loosely related, ffmpeg-devel= is simply not suited for SDR. The skills are not here, the time and motiva= tion are not here, not to speak of the good will. My reply was only about libpostproc, I was intending to just ask what exact= ly needs to be done in libpostproc (aka maintaince) i had not intended to somehow refer to anything else. I should have snipped the other bits of the quoted thread probably thx [...] --=20 Michael GnuPG fingerprint: 9FF2128B147EF6730BADF133611EC787040B0FAB No great genius has ever existed without some touch of madness. -- Aristotle --Do9hQ/bfCb4zBpLo Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- iF0EABEIAB0WIQSf8hKLFH72cwut8TNhHseHBAsPqwUCZRX7lwAKCRBhHseHBAsP q4emAKCbsUUVAHGLWDNzAdq1shY4x5MFdwCfYBCb2YUXOzWUyZGzW6NltbLWIsY= =qh00 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --Do9hQ/bfCb4zBpLo-- --===============8830158375498800247== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline _______________________________________________ ffmpeg-devel mailing list ffmpeg-devel@ffmpeg.org https://ffmpeg.org/mailman/listinfo/ffmpeg-devel To unsubscribe, visit link above, or email ffmpeg-devel-request@ffmpeg.org with subject "unsubscribe". --===============8830158375498800247==--