From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from ffbox0-bg.mplayerhq.hu (ffbox0-bg.ffmpeg.org [79.124.17.100]) by master.gitmailbox.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id A08FC47858 for ; Tue, 26 Sep 2023 17:16:40 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [127.0.1.1] (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ffbox0-bg.mplayerhq.hu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3ADDF68CA0C; Tue, 26 Sep 2023 20:16:38 +0300 (EEST) Received: from relay5-d.mail.gandi.net (relay5-d.mail.gandi.net [217.70.183.197]) by ffbox0-bg.mplayerhq.hu (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 47B0568BEBF for ; Tue, 26 Sep 2023 20:16:32 +0300 (EEST) Received: by mail.gandi.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 729B51C0002 for ; Tue, 26 Sep 2023 17:16:31 +0000 (UTC) Date: Tue, 26 Sep 2023 19:16:30 +0200 From: Michael Niedermayer To: FFmpeg development discussions and patches Message-ID: <20230926171630.GN3543730@pb2> References: <20230707150654.GX1093384@pb2> <168889764928.542.505537875908829599@lain.khirnov.net> <20230922092754.GV8640@pb2> <169571962013.20400.259576230656271580@lain.khirnov.net> <20230926150947.GM3543730@pb2> <169574221973.6638.5162903459684406928@lain.khirnov.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <169574221973.6638.5162903459684406928@lain.khirnov.net> X-GND-Sasl: michael@niedermayer.cc Subject: Re: [FFmpeg-devel] [RFC] Release 6.1 X-BeenThere: ffmpeg-devel@ffmpeg.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: FFmpeg development discussions and patches List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Reply-To: FFmpeg development discussions and patches Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============6753296012536761237==" Errors-To: ffmpeg-devel-bounces@ffmpeg.org Sender: "ffmpeg-devel" Archived-At: List-Archive: List-Post: --===============6753296012536761237== Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha256; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="NJSRbAqOy4NeGDns" Content-Disposition: inline --NJSRbAqOy4NeGDns Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Tue, Sep 26, 2023 at 05:30:19PM +0200, Anton Khirnov wrote: > Quoting Michael Niedermayer (2023-09-26 17:09:47) > > On Tue, Sep 26, 2023 at 11:13:40AM +0200, Anton Khirnov wrote: > > > Quoting Michael Niedermayer (2023-09-22 11:27:54) > > > > The idea was really just, that i said ill include SDR and i want to > > > > keep this word > > >=20 > > > Well, you should not have spoken for the entire project without > > > consulting the rest of the community first. Nobody here is entitled to > >=20 > > This statement is a little misleading, i think > >=20 > > Iam part of the community, i would think and for 99% of the tweets made > > on the official twitter account i have never been asked or even had a > > chance to comment before they where made. So what you suggest here is > > "the correct way", has never been applied. >=20 > This is disingenuous sophistry, and honestly I find it insulting that > you expect people to swallow it. >=20 > You made the tweet in question long after it was clear that the feature > is controversial. Then you tried to use it as an argument in favor of > pushing SDR to master. In other words, you used the fact that you have > Twitter posting rights to promote your opinion over that of other > developers. If that is not abuse of power then I don't know what is. ok I wrote a SDR input device for free, wanted to give it to the users as i believed it was a cool and usefull feature i tried to argue for it, i tried to promote it. And as the person doing all releases of FFmpeg since a very long time i thought yeah we will be able to resolve the disagreements and get it in 6.1 with everyone geing happy. I was wrong, i announced this before i actually got people to agree yes I still belive if people where not so "excited" on this whole and if it was just a technical question we could get SDR in 6.1 with everyone agreeing. But now heres a man to be burned at the stake, and thats more important. abuse of power ? If its abuse of power to risk my position in FFmpeg to try to get users a f= eature i belive in they would like and find cool then yes i abused my power. Should i ask the counter-question ? are the developers who have less than 10 commits since 2017 abusing somethi= ng by organizing and rallying the people against SDR, against the domain owner and against me ? Without that, i do belive we could have gotten SDR with everyone being happy in 6.1 Anyway, i appologize for announcing SDR in 6.1. I was too much in love with SDR and how cool it would be ... I guess there will be votes to remove me from everything. But dont fear, i will not abuse anything, i will resign from everything that a correct vote asks me to resign from. Thx [...] --=20 Michael GnuPG fingerprint: 9FF2128B147EF6730BADF133611EC787040B0FAB Dictatorship: All citizens are under surveillance, all their steps and actions recorded, for the politicians to enforce control. 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