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From: Michael Niedermayer <michael@niedermayer.cc>
To: FFmpeg development discussions and patches <ffmpeg-devel@ffmpeg.org>
Subject: Re: [FFmpeg-devel] [RFC] Release 6.1
Date: Tue, 26 Sep 2023 19:16:30 +0200
Message-ID: <20230926171630.GN3543730@pb2> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <169574221973.6638.5162903459684406928@lain.khirnov.net>


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On Tue, Sep 26, 2023 at 05:30:19PM +0200, Anton Khirnov wrote:
> Quoting Michael Niedermayer (2023-09-26 17:09:47)
> > On Tue, Sep 26, 2023 at 11:13:40AM +0200, Anton Khirnov wrote:
> > > Quoting Michael Niedermayer (2023-09-22 11:27:54)
> > > > The idea was really just, that i said ill include SDR and i want to
> > > > keep this word
> > > 
> > > Well, you should not have spoken for the entire project without
> > > consulting the rest of the community first. Nobody here is entitled to
> > 
> > This statement is a little misleading, i think
> > 
> > Iam part of the community, i would think and for 99% of the tweets made
> > on the official twitter account i have never been asked or even had a
> > chance to comment before they where made. So what you suggest here is
> > "the correct way", has never been applied.
> 
> This is disingenuous sophistry, and honestly I find it insulting that
> you expect people to swallow it.
> 
> You made the tweet in question long after it was clear that the feature
> is controversial. Then you tried to use it as an argument in favor of
> pushing SDR to master. In other words, you used the fact that you have
> Twitter posting rights to promote your opinion over that of other
> developers. If that is not abuse of power then I don't know what is.

ok
I wrote a SDR input device for free, wanted to give it to the users
as i believed it was a cool and usefull feature

i tried to argue for it, i tried to promote it.
And as the person doing all releases of FFmpeg since a very long time
i thought yeah we will be able to resolve the disagreements and get it
in 6.1 with everyone geing happy.
I was wrong, i announced this before i actually got people to agree yes
I still belive if people where not so "excited" on this whole and if it
was just a technical question we could get SDR in 6.1 with everyone
agreeing.
But now heres a man to be burned at the stake, and thats more important.

abuse of power ?
If its abuse of power to risk my position in FFmpeg to try to get users a feature
i belive in they would like and find cool then yes i abused my power.

Should i ask the counter-question ?
are the developers who have less than 10 commits since 2017 abusing something
by organizing and rallying the people against SDR, against the domain owner
and against me ?

Without that, i do belive we could have gotten SDR with everyone being happy
in 6.1

Anyway, i appologize for announcing SDR in 6.1. I was too much in love with
SDR and how cool it would be ...

I guess there will be votes to remove me from everything.
But dont fear, i will not abuse anything, i will resign from everything that
a correct vote asks me to resign from.

Thx

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  parent reply	other threads:[~2023-09-26 17:16 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 97+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2023-07-06 16:04 Lynne
2023-07-06 16:19 ` Jean-Baptiste Kempf
     [not found] ` <4e164164-f730-4b5e-9edc-1a37b10684e2@betaapp.fastmail.com-NZg-97N----9>
2023-07-07  6:40   ` Lynne
2023-07-07  6:53     ` Ingo Oppermann
2023-07-07  7:36     ` Steven Liu
2023-09-26 13:37     ` Leo Izen
2023-07-07 15:06 ` Michael Niedermayer
2023-07-07 15:33   ` Lynne
2023-07-07 22:51     ` Michael Niedermayer
2023-07-09 10:14   ` Anton Khirnov
2023-09-22  9:27     ` Michael Niedermayer
2023-09-22  9:32       ` Paul B Mahol
2023-09-22 14:49         ` Michael Niedermayer
2023-09-22 15:27           ` Paul B Mahol
2023-09-26  8:47             ` Jean-Baptiste Kempf
2023-09-22 10:04       ` Nicolas George
2023-09-22 11:42         ` Paul B Mahol
2023-09-26  9:13       ` Anton Khirnov
2023-09-26 15:09         ` Michael Niedermayer
2023-09-26 15:14           ` Kieran Kunhya via ffmpeg-devel
2023-09-26 15:30           ` Anton Khirnov
2023-09-26 16:27             ` Derek Buitenhuis
2023-09-26 17:24               ` Michael Niedermayer
2023-09-26 17:16             ` Michael Niedermayer [this message]
2023-09-26 17:25               ` James Almer
2023-09-26 18:03                 ` Nicolas George
2023-09-26 18:14               ` Anton Khirnov
2023-09-26 18:24                 ` Nicolas George
2023-09-26 18:27                   ` Vittorio Giovara
2023-09-26 18:28                     ` Nicolas George
     [not found]                 ` <F3D5B4BB-AE60-401F-800E-6246B9F359A4@cosmin.at>
2023-09-26 22:50                   ` [FFmpeg-devel] SDR choices Cosmin Stejerean via ffmpeg-devel
2023-10-03 19:22                 ` [FFmpeg-devel] [RFC] Release 6.1 Michael Niedermayer
2023-10-04 15:19                   ` Anton Khirnov
2023-10-04 16:54                     ` Lynne
2023-10-04 17:53                     ` Michael Niedermayer
2023-09-26 21:20               ` Ronald S. Bultje
2023-09-27 13:53               ` Tomas Härdin
2023-09-27 20:18                 ` Michael Niedermayer
2023-09-27 20:27                   ` Nicolas George
2023-09-28  8:48                     ` Ronald S. Bultje
2023-09-28 14:45                     ` Rémi Denis-Courmont
2023-09-28 15:33                       ` Nicolas George
2023-09-28 15:58                         ` Rémi Denis-Courmont
2023-09-28 16:13                           ` Nicolas George
2023-09-28 16:34                             ` Rémi Denis-Courmont
2023-09-28 16:42                               ` Nicolas George
2023-09-28 14:32                   ` Rémi Denis-Courmont
2023-09-28 15:28                     ` Nicolas George
2023-09-28 16:22                       ` Rémi Denis-Courmont
2023-09-28 16:32                         ` Nicolas George
2023-09-28 16:35                           ` Paul B Mahol
2023-09-28 16:38                           ` Rémi Denis-Courmont
2023-09-28 16:41                             ` Nicolas George
2023-09-28 16:42                               ` Rémi Denis-Courmont
2023-09-28 16:43                                 ` Nicolas George
2023-09-28 17:27                                   ` Rémi Denis-Courmont
2023-07-08  1:46 ` Neal Gompa
2023-07-09 10:13 ` Anton Khirnov
2023-10-09  3:37 ` Lynne
2023-10-09 17:41   ` Michael Niedermayer
2023-10-10 15:19     ` Neal Gompa
2023-10-28 16:49 ` Michael Niedermayer
2023-10-28 16:56   ` James Almer
2023-10-28 19:23   ` Lynne
2023-10-29  4:51     ` Michael Niedermayer
2023-10-29  5:57       ` Lynne
2023-11-07  7:36         ` Lynne
2023-11-07 16:47           ` Tristan Matthews
2023-11-08  1:26             ` Steven Liu
2023-11-08  1:29               ` Steven Liu
     [not found]         ` <NichQkq--3-9@lynne.ee-NichTw8----9>
2023-11-09  8:20           ` Lynne
2023-11-09  9:46             ` epirat07
2023-11-09  9:48               ` Gyan Doshi
2023-11-10  1:47             ` Michael Niedermayer
2023-10-29  9:30   ` Nicolas George
2023-10-29 13:51     ` Jean-Baptiste Kempf
2023-10-29 14:17       ` Nicolas George
2023-10-29 16:27         ` Jean-Baptiste Kempf
2023-10-29 16:40           ` Nicolas George
2023-10-29 16:43             ` Jean-Baptiste Kempf
2023-10-29 16:45               ` Nicolas George
2023-10-29 15:10       ` Thilo Borgmann via ffmpeg-devel
2023-10-29 16:25         ` Jean-Baptiste Kempf
2023-10-29 17:20           ` Thilo Borgmann via ffmpeg-devel
2023-10-29 17:56             ` Jean-Baptiste Kempf
2023-10-29 18:12               ` Nicolas George
2023-10-29 18:22                 ` Jean-Baptiste Kempf
2023-10-29 18:31                   ` Nicolas George
2023-10-29 19:11                     ` Jean-Baptiste Kempf
2023-10-29 19:19                       ` Nicolas George
2023-10-29 18:47                 ` Thilo Borgmann via ffmpeg-devel
2023-10-29 18:46               ` Thilo Borgmann via ffmpeg-devel
2023-10-29 19:27                 ` Jean-Baptiste Kempf
2023-11-01 17:53                   ` Thilo Borgmann via ffmpeg-devel
2023-10-29 16:42   ` Jean-Baptiste Kempf
2023-10-29 16:49     ` James Almer
2023-10-29 17:01       ` Jean-Baptiste Kempf

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