From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: <ffmpeg-devel-bounces@ffmpeg.org> Received: from ffbox0-bg.mplayerhq.hu (ffbox0-bg.ffmpeg.org [79.124.17.100]) by master.gitmailbox.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id BB7D647721 for <ffmpegdev@gitmailbox.com>; Wed, 20 Sep 2023 18:00:13 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [127.0.1.1] (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ffbox0-bg.mplayerhq.hu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0C8B468C864; Wed, 20 Sep 2023 21:00:11 +0300 (EEST) Received: from relay6-d.mail.gandi.net (relay6-d.mail.gandi.net [217.70.183.198]) by ffbox0-bg.mplayerhq.hu (Postfix) with ESMTPS id E0F3C68C81F for <ffmpeg-devel@ffmpeg.org>; Wed, 20 Sep 2023 21:00:03 +0300 (EEST) Received: by mail.gandi.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 44483C0004 for <ffmpeg-devel@ffmpeg.org>; Wed, 20 Sep 2023 18:00:02 +0000 (UTC) Date: Wed, 20 Sep 2023 20:00:02 +0200 From: Michael Niedermayer <michael@niedermayer.cc> To: FFmpeg development discussions and patches <ffmpeg-devel@ffmpeg.org> Message-ID: <20230920180002.GK8640@pb2> References: <20230410221428.GJ1164690@pb2> <20230919191803.GB35669@haasn.xyz> <20230919191608.GE8640@pb2> <20230920144719.GB115703@haasn.xyz> MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <20230920144719.GB115703@haasn.xyz> X-GND-Sasl: michael@niedermayer.cc Subject: Re: [FFmpeg-devel] FFmpeg release 6.1 X-BeenThere: ffmpeg-devel@ffmpeg.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: FFmpeg development discussions and patches <ffmpeg-devel.ffmpeg.org> List-Unsubscribe: <https://ffmpeg.org/mailman/options/ffmpeg-devel>, <mailto:ffmpeg-devel-request@ffmpeg.org?subject=unsubscribe> List-Archive: <https://ffmpeg.org/pipermail/ffmpeg-devel> List-Post: <mailto:ffmpeg-devel@ffmpeg.org> List-Help: <mailto:ffmpeg-devel-request@ffmpeg.org?subject=help> List-Subscribe: <https://ffmpeg.org/mailman/listinfo/ffmpeg-devel>, <mailto:ffmpeg-devel-request@ffmpeg.org?subject=subscribe> Reply-To: FFmpeg development discussions and patches <ffmpeg-devel@ffmpeg.org> Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============7536964401302069955==" Errors-To: ffmpeg-devel-bounces@ffmpeg.org Sender: "ffmpeg-devel" <ffmpeg-devel-bounces@ffmpeg.org> Archived-At: <https://master.gitmailbox.com/ffmpegdev/20230920180002.GK8640@pb2/> List-Archive: <https://master.gitmailbox.com/ffmpegdev/> List-Post: <mailto:ffmpegdev@gitmailbox.com> --===============7536964401302069955== Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha256; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="bebzX59uVWocTrAI" Content-Disposition: inline --bebzX59uVWocTrAI Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Wed, Sep 20, 2023 at 02:47:19PM +0200, Niklas Haas wrote: > On Tue, 19 Sep 2023 21:16:08 +0200 Michael Niedermayer <michael@niedermay= er.cc> wrote: > > what about merging libplacebo into FFmpeg for example ? > > As far as iam concerned you can have absolute final power about anything > > in that libplacebo inside FFmpeg. >=20 > To respond quickly to this point, >=20 > I'm not sure what merging libplacebo would improve to the status quo. As Code in libavfilter could more deeply depend on / integrate with libplacebo > far as I can tell, it would only make my life harder, at least if you > expect me to start caring about patches sent to the mailing list (as > opposed to using PR/MRs as I do currently). Well, _I_ dont mind how you manage libplacebo. >=20 > I'm not sure what the goal would be, either, except dragging more code > into FFmpeg. Code that can easily live outside it, because the degree of > interoperation between the two is minimal. All relevant distros already > package both libplacebo and FFmpeg, so the "ease of distribution" ship > has sailed. Well the goal is to have some sort of lib that unifies swscale, libplacebo and similar into code that provides high performance, high quality, CPU and GPU based convertion. And this really needs to be "close" to libavfilter if libavfilter would use it. >=20 > It would also make libplacebo releases now tied to FFmpeg releases, > which is an obvious downgrade for my own reverse dependents and a > significant downgrade to my current release process. We must avoid downgrades > The FFmpeg ABI > policy also seems wholly incompatible with the libplacebo ABI policy. i am not sure what the libplacebo ABI policy is thx [...] --=20 Michael GnuPG fingerprint: 9FF2128B147EF6730BADF133611EC787040B0FAB Observe your enemies, for they first find out your faults. -- Antisthenes --bebzX59uVWocTrAI Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- iF0EABEIAB0WIQSf8hKLFH72cwut8TNhHseHBAsPqwUCZQszHgAKCRBhHseHBAsP q8iOAJ9oym8i8r8745YfUMJpjn4JLdm86ACfZapc8OZI5l1aO1Oib0z7ouElp9I= =1gkM -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --bebzX59uVWocTrAI-- --===============7536964401302069955== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline _______________________________________________ ffmpeg-devel mailing list ffmpeg-devel@ffmpeg.org https://ffmpeg.org/mailman/listinfo/ffmpeg-devel To unsubscribe, visit link above, or email ffmpeg-devel-request@ffmpeg.org with subject "unsubscribe". --===============7536964401302069955==--