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From: Michael Niedermayer <michael@niedermayer.cc>
To: FFmpeg development discussions and patches <ffmpeg-devel@ffmpeg.org>
Subject: Re: [FFmpeg-devel] [PATCH v2] avcodec/mv30: Check the input length before allocation
Date: Sat, 12 Aug 2023 16:33:23 +0200
Message-ID: <20230812143323.GJ7802@pb2> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAPYw7P6FiB9ORSR=U-8QheNp6NuRH7AW_b+6Uh5EeSJ_E30OdQ@mail.gmail.com>


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On Thu, Aug 10, 2023 at 05:58:24PM +0200, Paul B Mahol wrote:
> On Thu, Aug 10, 2023 at 5:46 PM Michael Niedermayer <michael@niedermayer.cc>
> wrote:
> 
> > On Thu, Aug 10, 2023 at 12:12:51PM +0200, Paul B Mahol wrote:
> > > On Thu, Aug 10, 2023 at 11:34 AM Michael Niedermayer <
> > michael@niedermayer.cc>
> > > wrote:
> > >
> > > > On Wed, Aug 09, 2023 at 11:20:43PM +0200, Paul B Mahol wrote:
> > > > > On Wed, Aug 9, 2023 at 9:30 PM Michael Niedermayer <
> > > > michael@niedermayer.cc>
> > > > > wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > > Hi Paul
> > > > > >
> > > > > > On Wed, Aug 09, 2023 at 08:53:03PM +0200, Paul B Mahol wrote:
> > > > > > > This is not correct, and please stop writing such patches.
> > Thanks.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > If there is a problem in the bugfix, please explain what the
> > problem
> > > > is.
> > > > > > If you do not like the specific fix, you can fix it differently
> > too or
> > > > > > tell me what you prefer.
> > > > > > Simply saying "no" with no explanation repeatedly is rude
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Patch breaks valid files.
> > > >
> > > > Does the patch break files you create intentionally or files
> > > > pre-existing ?
> > > > The check can fail if 2 data segments overlap, one can craft
> > > > a file with that. The previous patches are implemented differently
> > > > and dont have that behavior, you rejected them too and at the time
> > > > you did call them "hacky" and did not mention that they break anything
> > > > and also ignored all further questions
> > > >
> > > > I just implemented this one differently as the other way was rejected
> > > > by you with no comment
> > > >
> > > > Also please provide the files this breaks so the issue can be
> > > > fixed
> > > >
> > > >
> > > Why not same thing for AV1 codec?
> > > Just reduce max resolutions for mv30 to 32x32 and be done.
> >
> > Limiting the resolution to max 32x32 would break real samples
> > for example V-codecs/mv30.avi
> >
> > if you suggest to limit it only for the fuzzer, well, that would not
> > fix the timeout outside the fuzzer.
> > For some decoders limiting the resolution in the fuzzer is the only
> > practical
> > option. But for mv30 this timeout really occurs because the input is not
> > checked/validated.
> >
> 
> But mv30 bitstream is not so trivial and can not be checked that easily
> with your patches.

for decode_intra the loop reads from mgb look like this:

    for (int y = 0; y < avctx->height; y += 16) {
...
        for (int x = 0; x < avctx->width; x += 16) {
...
            for (int b = 0; b < 6; b++) {
                int mode = get_bits_le(&mgb, 2);
...
            }
        }

the only way to escape this loop is through error exit
so 2*6* number of 16x16 blocks is read unconditionally
and its read from a place that has s->mode_size * 8 bits
alternatively get_bits_left() can be used


for decode inter:
there is this at the begin
    mask = *gb;
    skip_bits_long(gb, mask_size * 8);
    mgb = *gb;
    skip_bits_long(gb, s->mode_size * 8);

so we have at minimum (mask_size + s->mode_size) * 8 bits

It does seem reasonable to me to check the input to contain enough bits
for what is consumed
If it breaks some real files, i very much would like to know what these
files are doing


> 
> Also whole fuzzing idea of your work is flawed.

what do you mean by "whole fuzzing idea" ?

thx

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      reply	other threads:[~2023-08-12 14:33 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 11+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2023-08-09 18:34 Michael Niedermayer
2023-08-09 18:53 ` Paul B Mahol
2023-08-09 19:30   ` Michael Niedermayer
2023-08-09 21:20     ` Paul B Mahol
2023-08-09 21:14       ` James Almer
2023-08-09 21:34         ` Paul B Mahol
2023-08-10  9:34       ` Michael Niedermayer
2023-08-10 10:12         ` Paul B Mahol
2023-08-10 15:46           ` Michael Niedermayer
2023-08-10 15:58             ` Paul B Mahol
2023-08-12 14:33               ` Michael Niedermayer [this message]

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