From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from ffbox0-bg.mplayerhq.hu (ffbox0-bg.ffmpeg.org [79.124.17.100]) by master.gitmailbox.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4A190469E1 for ; Sat, 1 Jul 2023 18:56:17 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [127.0.1.1] (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ffbox0-bg.mplayerhq.hu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5CB3B68C03F; Sat, 1 Jul 2023 21:56:14 +0300 (EEST) Received: from relay4-d.mail.gandi.net (relay4-d.mail.gandi.net [217.70.183.196]) by ffbox0-bg.mplayerhq.hu (Postfix) with ESMTPS id D04F868BEFF for ; Sat, 1 Jul 2023 21:56:08 +0300 (EEST) X-GND-Sasl: michael@niedermayer.cc Received: by mail.gandi.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 81EF9E0005 for ; Sat, 1 Jul 2023 18:56:07 +0000 (UTC) Date: Sat, 1 Jul 2023 20:56:05 +0200 From: Michael Niedermayer To: FFmpeg development discussions and patches Message-ID: <20230701185605.GF1093384@pb2> References: <20230628212504.2522567-1-michael@niedermayer.cc> <20230630140838.GA1093384@pb2> <1ea6a4a3-ed1a-4c8c-8a99-82b670f6868f@betaapp.fastmail.com> <20230630174053.GB1093384@pb2> <20230630180236.GC1093384@pb2> <8BAC03EA-D4A2-455C-981C-2C92F4E1B5C8@remlab.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <8BAC03EA-D4A2-455C-981C-2C92F4E1B5C8@remlab.net> Subject: Re: [FFmpeg-devel] [PATCH v6 0/1] avformat: add Software Defined Radio support X-BeenThere: ffmpeg-devel@ffmpeg.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: FFmpeg development discussions and patches List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Reply-To: FFmpeg development discussions and patches Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============4375088712778849821==" Errors-To: ffmpeg-devel-bounces@ffmpeg.org Sender: "ffmpeg-devel" Archived-At: List-Archive: List-Post: --===============4375088712778849821== Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha256; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="JSkcQAAxhB1h8DcT" Content-Disposition: inline --JSkcQAAxhB1h8DcT Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Sat, Jul 01, 2023 at 06:28:03PM +0300, R=E9mi Denis-Courmont wrote: > Hi, >=20 > Le 30 juin 2023 21:02:36 GMT+03:00, Michael Niedermayer a =E9crit=A0: > >On Fri, Jun 30, 2023 at 07:40:53PM +0200, Michael Niedermayer wrote: > >> On Fri, Jun 30, 2023 at 04:38:46PM +0200, Jean-Baptiste Kempf wrote: > >> > On Fri, 30 Jun 2023, at 16:08, Michael Niedermayer wrote: > >> > > Also as said previously, If there is at least a 2nd developer work= ing > >> > > on this then we could & should move this to a seperate libraray (l= ibavradio) > >> >=20 > >> > Why wait for a 2nd dev? > >>=20 > >> It is significant work > > > >And if we could put it in git master then people could work together to > >build the libavradio out of it as we all want. >=20 > You can also achieve that by creating a separate git repo for libavradio = on git.ffmpeg.org. Admittedly some people could object to hosting this code= by FFmpeg; the point is that I don't see what good putting this inside the= FFmpeg master git branch achieves. >=20 > >Such collaboration is kind of one of the reasons of having a "git master" >=20 > You're better off collaborating with people interested in this, than with= the entirety of FFmpeg-devel, me thinks. >=20 > That's if this turns into a "Boring Serious Open-Source" project to parap= hrase a certain somebody else. If it remains just your hobby project, you'r= e probably better off doing it in your own git repository where you can dic= tate everything. There you won't have to deal with the FFmpeg TC nor pesky = minders of other people's source code such as I. These are wise words. The thing that i have difficulty getting into my head is how all these fringe formats and codecs that most of us are not even able to find a sample for. Let alone have ever used or ever will. Do fit into FFmpeg while code to support the 2 most widespread analog radio systems are off limits. One can define that as transport and exclude it but that feels very contriv= ed. Explain that to a child, FFmpeg supports all multimedia, that is audio and = video BUT not that audio you listen here to in the car radio UNLESS you plug that usb stick in (with an mp3 on it), then we support it. If FFmpeg is intending to support all of multimedia it should support AM & FM audio by some means. i can put the input device and demuxer in libavradio with the same API as currently and put that in a seperate directory or repository. It seems a technically not thought through decission though. It simply adds extra work to maintain it. the reason why iam pushy is that i belive the FFmpeg users would want this feature. If i give in and dump it into my github repo, chances are 99% of users will not have access to this feature as it likely wont get included in most distributions theres nothing i gain from this feature going into git master. I just think radio support _does_ belong into FFmpeg. thx [...] --=20 Michael GnuPG fingerprint: 9FF2128B147EF6730BADF133611EC787040B0FAB He who knows, does not speak. He who speaks, does not know. -- Lao Tsu --JSkcQAAxhB1h8DcT Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- iF0EABEIAB0WIQSf8hKLFH72cwut8TNhHseHBAsPqwUCZKB2wAAKCRBhHseHBAsP qzKDAJwIlKqpGECBByVIkLN6Pz8NVewXJQCgk4GoV8XOOKe4D+k59Wdkxb4X3UU= =3vSL -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --JSkcQAAxhB1h8DcT-- --===============4375088712778849821== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline _______________________________________________ ffmpeg-devel mailing list ffmpeg-devel@ffmpeg.org https://ffmpeg.org/mailman/listinfo/ffmpeg-devel To unsubscribe, visit link above, or email ffmpeg-devel-request@ffmpeg.org with subject "unsubscribe". --===============4375088712778849821==--