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From: Michael Niedermayer <michael@niedermayer.cc>
To: FFmpeg development discussions and patches <ffmpeg-devel@ffmpeg.org>
Subject: Re: [FFmpeg-devel] [PATCH] [RFC] avformat: Add basic same origin check
Date: Wed, 3 May 2023 12:49:41 +0200
Message-ID: <20230503104941.GC1391451@pb2> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CA+anqdynX+CJsU0HUM2eBvesd9=yibG7DnTTSyJzApEKboBHpw@mail.gmail.com>


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On Wed, May 03, 2023 at 12:05:54PM +0200, Hendrik Leppkes wrote:
> On Tue, May 2, 2023 at 10:57 PM James Almer <jamrial@gmail.com> wrote:
> > >
> > > added
> > > +{"same_none"  , "same origin check off"                       , 0 , AV_OPT_TYPE_CONST, { .i64 = AVFMT_SAME_ORIGIN_CHECK_NONE }, 0, INT_MAX, D|E, "same_origin"},
> >
> > "none" sounds more natural.
> >
> > >
> > >
> > >> And do we want check_path to be default? It's a change
> > >> in behavior.
> > >
> > > is it usefull if its not enabled by default ?
> >
> > It is, since it can be enabled, like the whitelists and blacklists, but
> > the question is if it's preferable to have it enabled. If you consider
> > it so, then it's good and i wont oppose it.
> >
> 
> Is there any estimation how many legitimate streams would be broken by
> these options?
> If any major streams don't work with this, then its not a good option,
> and eg. library users will likely just turn it off or to a lower
> setting, as proper streams just have to work - and log output is
> pretty much useless for API usage cases.
> 
> A quick check for example shows that even something as simple as the
> HLS BBC Radio streams will fail _all_ checks, since the playlists are
> hosted on another host entirely as the media, thanks to akamai live
> streaming.
> Playlist here, as an example:
> http://a.files.bbci.co.uk/media/live/manifesto/audio/simulcast/hls/nonuk/sbr_low/ak/bbc_radio_one.m3u8

yes, thats why it says RFC in the subject, i had expected that a bit already

still OTOH, blocking these by default is the safer option, i mean if a user
does a
./ffplay http://trustedfoobar.org/cutevideo.avi

would she expect that video to access http://127.0.0.1/ and later http://evilhost/localwebscan-success
I think this should not be possible by default settings, its unexpected

maybe a whitelist of hosts or urls. Something the user could add
*.akamaized.net
to may be an option

Thx

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  reply	other threads:[~2023-05-03 10:49 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 18+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2023-05-02 19:36 Michael Niedermayer
2023-05-02 20:00 ` James Almer
2023-05-02 20:16   ` Michael Niedermayer
2023-05-02 20:57     ` James Almer
2023-05-02 21:15       ` Michael Niedermayer
2023-05-03  9:26         ` Anton Khirnov
2023-05-03 10:05       ` Hendrik Leppkes
2023-05-03 10:49         ` Michael Niedermayer [this message]
2023-05-03 12:24           ` Hendrik Leppkes
2023-05-03 19:08             ` Michael Niedermayer
2023-05-03 21:01               ` Timo Rothenpieler
2023-05-03 22:26                 ` Michael Niedermayer
2023-05-03  9:23 ` Anton Khirnov
2023-05-03 11:16 ` Rémi Denis-Courmont
2023-05-03 13:33   ` Michael Niedermayer
2023-05-03 16:07     ` Rémi Denis-Courmont
2023-05-03 19:05       ` Michael Niedermayer
2023-05-03 19:35         ` Rémi Denis-Courmont

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