From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from ffbox0-bg.mplayerhq.hu (ffbox0-bg.ffmpeg.org [79.124.17.100]) by master.gitmailbox.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id DDFDA405A8 for ; Sun, 22 Jan 2023 22:54:48 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [127.0.1.1] (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ffbox0-bg.mplayerhq.hu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7E76268BD32; Mon, 23 Jan 2023 00:54:45 +0200 (EET) Received: from relay8-d.mail.gandi.net (relay8-d.mail.gandi.net [217.70.183.201]) by ffbox0-bg.mplayerhq.hu (Postfix) with ESMTPS id C33F168B86B for ; Mon, 23 Jan 2023 00:54:38 +0200 (EET) Received: (Authenticated sender: michael@niedermayer.cc) by mail.gandi.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id E56831BF204 for ; Sun, 22 Jan 2023 22:54:37 +0000 (UTC) Date: Sun, 22 Jan 2023 23:54:37 +0100 From: Michael Niedermayer To: FFmpeg development discussions and patches Message-ID: <20230122225437.GA1949656@pb2> References: <20230116133840.512-1-jamrial@gmail.com> <167407008302.4503.12911207010634660934@lain.khirnov.net> <20230120020509.GX1949656@pb2> <167431989409.26119.3043585718968218@lain.khirnov.net> <20230121213629.GZ1949656@pb2> <8b99815-8f2f-8366-68c3-82fe7698c36b@passwd.hu> MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <8b99815-8f2f-8366-68c3-82fe7698c36b@passwd.hu> Subject: Re: [FFmpeg-devel] [PATCH 00/26] Major library version bump X-BeenThere: ffmpeg-devel@ffmpeg.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: FFmpeg development discussions and patches List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Reply-To: FFmpeg development discussions and patches Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============9080861174202623383==" Errors-To: ffmpeg-devel-bounces@ffmpeg.org Sender: "ffmpeg-devel" Archived-At: List-Archive: List-Post: --===============9080861174202623383== Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha256; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="Z83JOb+Pp/DrQW9p" Content-Disposition: inline --Z83JOb+Pp/DrQW9p Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Sat, Jan 21, 2023 at 11:00:52PM +0100, Marton Balint wrote: >=20 >=20 > On Sat, 21 Jan 2023, Michael Niedermayer wrote: >=20 > > On Sat, Jan 21, 2023 at 05:51:34PM +0100, Anton Khirnov wrote: > > > Quoting Michael Niedermayer (2023-01-20 03:05:09) > > > > PS: iam not sure i fully understood the reason behind why versions = should be > > > > set to "wrong" values during some period, so as always i might be m= issing > > > > something > > >=20 > > > The reason is that after the major bump, the API and ABI are declared= to > > > be unstable for some period, so people can freely > > > - break ABI, e.g. by reordering struct members > > > - modify API added during the instability period in an arbitrary way > > > without a new major bump for every such change, that would be normally > > > required. > > >=20 > > > My concern is that the instability period is quite long and there is > > > very little indication for our users that they cannot depend on the > > > ABI/API being stable. So I'm proposing to introduce some mechanism to > > > make this more visible for our callers. > > >=20 > > > Alternatively, we could just not have an instability period at all. > >=20 > > Does anyone plan to use the next bumps instability period for anything ? > > If so, i assume theres a good reason why it cannot be done without such > > period easily? >=20 > AVCodecContext->frame_number should be changed to int64_t. I guess you co= uld Is there a patchset that does that already ?=20 Iam asking as i think starting work on this after the bump would be the wrong approuch Also how long of a instability period do you expect this would need ? Or maybe the question is who would work on this and have it toward the top of their todo list. thx [...] --=20 Michael GnuPG fingerprint: 9FF2128B147EF6730BADF133611EC787040B0FAB Homeopathy is like voting while filling the ballot out with transparent ink. Sometimes the outcome one wanted occurs. Rarely its worse than filling out a ballot properly. --Z83JOb+Pp/DrQW9p Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- iF0EABEIAB0WIQSf8hKLFH72cwut8TNhHseHBAsPqwUCY82+pgAKCRBhHseHBAsP q2JYAJ9Yvcn7yV+aG8hA4sPsE9RfsqjURQCdGbyy1YcQFfwC7X0JK1abbqddHUg= =rBvr -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --Z83JOb+Pp/DrQW9p-- --===============9080861174202623383== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline _______________________________________________ ffmpeg-devel mailing list ffmpeg-devel@ffmpeg.org https://ffmpeg.org/mailman/listinfo/ffmpeg-devel To unsubscribe, visit link above, or email ffmpeg-devel-request@ffmpeg.org with subject "unsubscribe". --===============9080861174202623383==--