From: Michael Niedermayer <michael@niedermayer.cc>
To: FFmpeg development discussions and patches <ffmpeg-devel@ffmpeg.org>
Subject: Re: [FFmpeg-devel] [PATCH 00/26] Major library version bump
Date: Sat, 21 Jan 2023 22:36:29 +0100
Message-ID: <20230121213629.GZ1949656@pb2> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <167431989409.26119.3043585718968218@lain.khirnov.net>
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On Sat, Jan 21, 2023 at 05:51:34PM +0100, Anton Khirnov wrote:
> Quoting Michael Niedermayer (2023-01-20 03:05:09)
> > PS: iam not sure i fully understood the reason behind why versions should be
> > set to "wrong" values during some period, so as always i might be missing
> > something
>
> The reason is that after the major bump, the API and ABI are declared to
> be unstable for some period, so people can freely
> - break ABI, e.g. by reordering struct members
> - modify API added during the instability period in an arbitrary way
> without a new major bump for every such change, that would be normally
> required.
>
> My concern is that the instability period is quite long and there is
> very little indication for our users that they cannot depend on the
> ABI/API being stable. So I'm proposing to introduce some mechanism to
> make this more visible for our callers.
>
> Alternatively, we could just not have an instability period at all.
Does anyone plan to use the next bumps instability period for anything ?
If so, i assume theres a good reason why it cannot be done without such
period easily?
If theres noone -> easy solution, we need no instability period ATM.
If theres someone, i would ask that someone how long it needs to be
and write that down in APIchanges. Maybe as in "API is unstable becuase
of X until 2033-11-11
a new #define LIBAVCODEC_UNSTABLE could be added but izt feels a bit
overengeneered. This whole thing is more a exception, isnt it?
thx
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2023-01-16 13:38 James Almer
2023-01-16 13:38 ` [FFmpeg-devel] [PATCH 01/26] avcodec: remove FF_API_OPENH264_SLICE_MODE James Almer
2023-01-16 13:38 ` [FFmpeg-devel] [PATCH 02/26] avcodec: remove FF_API_OPENH264_CABAC James Almer
2023-01-16 13:38 ` [FFmpeg-devel] [PATCH 03/26] avcodec: remove FF_API_UNUSED_CODEC_CAPS James Almer
2023-01-16 13:38 ` [FFmpeg-devel] [PATCH 04/26] avcodec: remove FF_API_THREAD_SAFE_CALLBACKS James Almer
2023-01-20 22:44 ` Michael Niedermayer
2023-01-23 22:05 ` James Almer
2023-01-16 13:38 ` [FFmpeg-devel] [PATCH 05/26] avcodec: remove FF_API_DEBUG_MV James Almer
2023-01-16 13:38 ` [FFmpeg-devel] [PATCH 06/26] avcodec: remove FF_API_GET_FRAME_CLASS James Almer
2023-01-16 13:38 ` [FFmpeg-devel] [PATCH 07/26] avcodec: remove FF_API_AUTO_THREADS James Almer
2023-01-16 13:38 ` [FFmpeg-devel] [PATCH 08/26] avcodec: remove FF_API_AVCTX_TIMEBASE James Almer
2023-01-16 13:38 ` [FFmpeg-devel] [PATCH 09/26] avcodec: remove FF_API_FLAG_TRUNCATED James Almer
2023-01-16 13:38 ` [FFmpeg-devel] [PATCH 10/26] avcodec: remove FF_API_SUB_TEXT_FORMAT James Almer
2023-01-16 13:38 ` [FFmpeg-devel] [PATCH 11/26] avformat: remove FF_API_LAVF_PRIV_OPT James Almer
2023-01-16 13:38 ` [FFmpeg-devel] [PATCH 12/26] avformat: remove FF_API_AVIOCONTEXT_WRITTEN James Almer
2023-01-16 13:38 ` [FFmpeg-devel] [PATCH 13/26] avformat: remove FF_HLS_TS_OPTIONS James Almer
2023-01-16 13:38 ` [FFmpeg-devel] [PATCH 14/26] avformat: remove FF_API_AVSTREAM_CLASS James Almer
2023-01-16 13:38 ` [FFmpeg-devel] [PATCH 15/26] avfilter: remove FF_API_SWS_PARAM_OPTION James Almer
2023-01-16 13:38 ` [FFmpeg-devel] [PATCH 16/26] avfilter: remove FF_API_BUFFERSINK_ALLOC James Almer
2023-01-16 13:38 ` [FFmpeg-devel] [PATCH 17/26] avfilter: remove FF_API_PAD_COUNT James Almer
2023-01-16 13:38 ` [FFmpeg-devel] [PATCH 18/26] avdevice: remove FF_API_DEVICE_CAPABILITIES James Almer
2023-01-16 13:38 ` [FFmpeg-devel] [PATCH 19/26] avutil: remove FF_API_D2STR James Almer
2023-01-16 13:38 ` [FFmpeg-devel] [PATCH 20/26] avutil: remove FF_API_DECLARE_ALIGNED James Almer
2023-01-16 13:38 ` [FFmpeg-devel] [PATCH 21/26] avutil: remove FF_API_COLORSPACE_NAME James Almer
2023-01-16 13:38 ` [FFmpeg-devel] [PATCH 22/26] avutil: remove FF_API_AV_MALLOCZ_ARRAY James Almer
2023-01-16 13:38 ` [FFmpeg-devel] [PATCH 23/26] avutil/version: postpone the remaining API deprecations James Almer
2023-01-16 13:38 ` [FFmpeg-devel] [PATCH 24/26] avcodec/version: " James Almer
2023-01-16 13:38 ` [FFmpeg-devel] [PATCH 25/26] avformat/version: " James Almer
2023-01-16 13:38 ` [FFmpeg-devel] [PATCH 26/26] Bump major versions of all libraries James Almer
2023-01-18 19:28 ` [FFmpeg-devel] [PATCH 00/26] Major library version bump Anton Khirnov
2023-01-18 21:23 ` James Almer
2023-01-19 7:26 ` Anton Khirnov
2023-01-19 12:18 ` James Almer
2023-01-19 15:23 ` Anton Khirnov
2023-01-20 2:05 ` Michael Niedermayer
2023-01-21 16:51 ` Anton Khirnov
2023-01-21 19:33 ` Marvin Scholz
2023-01-21 20:17 ` Hendrik Leppkes
2023-01-21 21:30 ` Marvin Scholz
2023-01-21 22:47 ` Hendrik Leppkes
2023-01-21 21:36 ` Michael Niedermayer [this message]
2023-01-21 22:00 ` Marton Balint
2023-01-22 22:54 ` Michael Niedermayer
2023-01-23 17:03 ` Anton Khirnov
2023-01-23 22:41 ` Marton Balint
2023-01-23 22:50 ` Anton Khirnov
2023-01-23 23:22 ` Marton Balint
2023-01-24 0:01 ` Michael Niedermayer
2023-01-24 0:06 ` Marton Balint
2023-01-24 7:59 ` Anton Khirnov
2023-01-24 19:48 ` Marton Balint
2023-01-21 22:01 ` Marvin Scholz
2023-01-20 15:07 ` Tomas Härdin
2023-01-20 21:23 ` Leo Izen
2023-01-21 16:54 ` Anton Khirnov
2023-01-24 15:45 ` Anton Khirnov
2023-01-25 15:44 ` James Almer
2023-01-25 20:08 ` Marton Balint
2023-01-25 20:44 ` Jean-Baptiste Kempf
2023-01-25 21:03 ` Marton Balint
2023-01-25 21:15 ` Jean-Baptiste Kempf
2023-01-25 21:20 ` Paul B Mahol
2023-01-25 21:26 ` Jean-Baptiste Kempf
2023-01-25 21:29 ` Paul B Mahol
2023-01-25 21:31 ` Jean-Baptiste Kempf
2023-01-25 21:34 ` Paul B Mahol
2023-01-25 22:28 ` Marton Balint
2023-01-25 22:48 ` Jean-Baptiste Kempf
2023-01-25 23:25 ` Marton Balint
2023-01-26 22:16 ` Michael Niedermayer
2023-01-26 22:49 ` Jean-Baptiste Kempf
2023-01-26 23:19 ` Michael Niedermayer
2023-01-26 23:21 ` Jean-Baptiste Kempf
2023-01-27 18:42 ` James Almer
2023-01-27 14:05 ` [FFmpeg-devel] [PATCH 26/31] avcodec/avcodec: Remove AV_CODEC_FLAG2_DROP_FRAME_TIMECODE Andreas Rheinhardt
[not found] ` <20230127140600.2831578-1-andreas.rheinhardt@outlook.com>
2023-01-27 14:05 ` [FFmpeg-devel] [PATCH 27/31] avformat/avformat: Remove AVOutputFormat.data_codec Andreas Rheinhardt
2023-01-27 14:05 ` [FFmpeg-devel] [PATCH 28/31] avformat/avformat: Move codecpar up in AVStream Andreas Rheinhardt
2023-01-27 14:05 ` [FFmpeg-devel] [PATCH 29/31] avcodec: Make avcodec_decode_subtitle2 accept a const AVPacket* Andreas Rheinhardt
2023-01-27 14:05 ` [FFmpeg-devel] [PATCH 30/31] avformat/demux: Avoid stack packet when decoding frame Andreas Rheinhardt
2023-01-27 14:06 ` [FFmpeg-devel] [PATCH 31/31] avformat/avformat: Move AVOutputFormat internals out of public header Andreas Rheinhardt
2023-01-28 13:58 ` [FFmpeg-devel] [PATCH 32/32] avutil/{color_utils, csp}: merge color_utils into csp and expose API Leo Izen
2023-01-29 11:08 ` Anton Khirnov
2023-01-30 16:50 ` [FFmpeg-devel] [PATCH v2] " Leo Izen
2023-01-30 17:08 ` Zhao Zhili
2023-01-30 17:12 ` Paul B Mahol
2023-01-30 18:22 ` Leo Izen
2023-01-31 2:20 ` "zhilizhao(赵志立)"
2023-02-02 7:02 ` [FFmpeg-devel] [PATCH major bump 0/6] Fix HDR vivid support Zhao Zhili
2023-02-02 8:00 ` Lance Wang
[not found] ` <20230202070208.1962086-1-quinkblack@foxmail.com>
2023-02-02 7:02 ` [FFmpeg-devel] [PATCH major bump 1/6] libavutil/hdr_dynamic_vivid_metadata: fix AVHDRVividColorToneMappingParams Zhao Zhili
2023-02-02 8:16 ` Anton Khirnov
2023-02-02 8:52 ` "zhilizhao(赵志立)"
2023-02-03 14:28 ` Anton Khirnov
2023-02-02 7:02 ` [FFmpeg-devel] [PATCH major bump 2/6] libavcodec/dynamic_hdr_vivid: fix start code check Zhao Zhili
2023-02-02 7:02 ` [FFmpeg-devel] [PATCH major bump 3/6] avcodec/dynamic_hdr_vivid: fix base_param_Delta Zhao Zhili
2023-02-02 7:02 ` [FFmpeg-devel] [PATCH major bump 4/6] avcodec/dynamic_hdr_vivid: fix base_enable_flag control Zhao Zhili
2023-02-02 7:02 ` [FFmpeg-devel] [PATCH major bump 5/6] avcodec/dynamic_hdr_vivid: reindent after the previous commit Zhao Zhili
2023-02-02 7:02 ` [FFmpeg-devel] [PATCH major bump 6/6] fftools/ffprobe: fix print_dynamic_hdr_vivid Zhao Zhili
2023-01-29 10:17 ` [FFmpeg-devel] [PATCH 1/3] lavu/fifo: remove FF_API_FIFO_PEEK2 Anton Khirnov
2023-01-29 10:17 ` [FFmpeg-devel] [PATCH 2/3] lavu/fifo: uninline deprecated av_fifo_peek2() Anton Khirnov
2023-01-29 16:11 ` Andreas Rheinhardt
2023-01-29 10:17 ` [FFmpeg-devel] [PATCH 3/3] lavu/fifo: mark all AVFifoBuffer members as deprecated Anton Khirnov
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