Hi all someone reported issues with disappearing mail and server load for trac Ive setup SPF for trac, which may have been the reason for gmail blocking mails from it ive also increased the number or processes x threads handling trac requests not sure that was the issue but trac/wsgi had significnatly fewer than apache so i guessed that may have been an issue Thanks -- Michael GnuPG fingerprint: 9FF2128B147EF6730BADF133611EC787040B0FAB If the United States is serious about tackling the national security threats related to an insecure 5G network, it needs to rethink the extent to which it values corporate profits and government espionage over security.-Bruce Schneier