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From: "Rémi Denis-Courmont" <remi@remlab.net>
To: FFmpeg development discussions and patches <ffmpeg-devel@ffmpeg.org>
Subject: Re: [FFmpeg-devel] VDD 2023, FFmpeg meeting notes, (23-11-2023, 4pm, Dublin)
Date: Wed, 04 Oct 2023 18:11:27 +0300
Message-ID: <1863502.tdWV9SEqCh@basile.remlab.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20231004142312.GH3543730@pb2>

Le keskiviikkona 4. lokakuuta 2023, 17.23.12 EEST Michael Niedermayer a écrit 
:
> > Why are you part of a community project if you don't believe the
> > community is capable of running a project?
>
> Questioning why some developer is part of FFmpeg is IMHO a violation of
> the Code of Conduct. No matter how it is worded

Kieran was asking a very valid *question*. NG has been vocally adamant (to put 
it mildly) about turning FFmpeg into (or back into) a place for fun 
experimentation and innovation, without the burden of reverse dependencies, 
down-stream packagers, users, and contributors with business interests.

In the past year, I have not noticed anybody else support those directions. 
Your own (in)actions have been in direct contradiction with his stated views, 
for instance:
- You keep making tons of "boring" fixes from OSS fuzz findings and other 
sources (I am thankful for your continued efforts on the first point, by the 
way; this is not meant as negative criticism).
- You are listed as a prominent member of FFlabs (and you have not denounced 
that in any way).

Admittedly, Kieran's question could be taken as loaded, but TBH the question 
seems valid, and calling it a violation of the CoC is too much of a stretch 
for me.

> > Why not start your own project like TempleOS where you can do what you
> > want?
> are you suggesting that we all move to a system where every developer has
> her/his own fork and they get merged ?

He is suggesting that if one person *appears* to be alone in wanting to take 
(or take back) FFmpeg in the given directions that they advocate, they should 
consider starting their own project or fork.

-- 
Rémi Denis-Courmont
http://www.remlab.net/



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  parent reply	other threads:[~2023-10-04 15:11 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 36+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2023-09-24  8:37 Kyle Swanson
2023-09-24  9:21 ` Matthias Dressel
2023-09-24 10:09 ` Michael Niedermayer
2023-09-24 10:13   ` Jean-Baptiste Kempf
2023-09-24 22:14     ` Derek Buitenhuis
2023-09-24 15:31   ` Ronald S. Bultje
2023-09-24 17:12   ` Nicolas George
2023-09-27 18:03   ` Michael Niedermayer
2023-10-04 14:51     ` Anton Khirnov
2023-09-24 12:36 ` Marton Balint
2023-09-24 13:46   ` Michael Niedermayer
2023-09-24 15:10   ` Ronald S. Bultje
2023-09-24 16:45     ` Michael Niedermayer
     [not found]       ` <119D9DAB-2F0B-427B-A7D1-063C0AF7C3BD@cosmin.at>
2023-09-25 13:16         ` Cosmin Stejerean via ffmpeg-devel
2023-09-26 13:21       ` Ronald S. Bultje
2023-09-27 10:00         ` Michael Niedermayer
2023-09-27 13:29           ` Vittorio Giovara
2023-10-03 18:50             ` Nicolas George
2023-10-03 19:13               ` Vittorio Giovara
2023-10-03 19:29               ` Kieran Kunhya via ffmpeg-devel
2023-10-04 14:23                 ` Michael Niedermayer
2023-10-04 15:06                   ` Anton Khirnov
2023-10-05 12:55                     ` Nicolas George
2023-10-05 17:32                       ` Vittorio Giovara
2023-10-05 18:33                         ` Michael Niedermayer
2023-10-05 19:45                           ` Rémi Denis-Courmont
2023-10-05 19:54                             ` Nicolas George
2023-10-05 19:00                         ` Nicolas George
2023-10-04 15:11                   ` Rémi Denis-Courmont [this message]
2023-10-03 19:29               ` Rémi Denis-Courmont
2023-10-03 19:36               ` Leo Izen
2023-09-26 19:26       ` Anton Khirnov
2023-09-26 18:44 ` Anton Khirnov
2023-09-27 13:15 ` Tomas Härdin
2023-10-02  9:55 ` Nicolas George
2023-10-03 18:41 ` Nicolas George

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