From: Anton Khirnov <anton@khirnov.net>
To: ffmpeg-devel@ffmpeg.org
Subject: Re: [FFmpeg-devel] [PATCH v2] libavformat/vapoursynth: Update to API version 4, load library at runtime
Date: Mon, 22 Jul 2024 08:57:42 +0200
Message-ID: <172163146231.21847.3900874929001201865@lain.khirnov.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <e99888e6-8e0f-49d8-aa0f-e4eff453ac6a@gmx.net>
Quoting Stefan Oltmanns (2024-07-18 14:12:42)
> Hello Anton,
>
> can you eloborate on that? What is unacceptable with my patch that is
> perfectly fine in the AviSynth input module? It's the very same concept.
It's not perfectly fine in avisynth, I dislike it there as well. There
are also recent patches that remove the atexit handler.
> Loading the library at runtime makes it so much more useful, because you
> can distribute ffmpeg binaries without forcing the user to install
> VapourSynth (which requires the user to install Python).
Runtime loading hides dependencies from standard tools and makes program
behaviour harder to analyze. Not to mention you're adding a bunch of
global state, which is evil.
> VapourSynth is not just a library like x264 that you can link in
> statically if you like, VapourSynth is a frame server (like AviSynth)
> with it's own dependencies.
> If you worry about platforms that do not support loading libraries at
> runtime: VapourSynth is based on plugins that are loaded on runtime, so
> it won't work on those platforms anyway.
I am worried about special "demuxers" than are not really demuxers and
don't work like other demuxers, hence massively increasing library
maintenance load.
--
Anton Khirnov
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next prev parent reply other threads:[~2024-07-22 6:57 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 22+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2024-07-06 21:08 Stefan Oltmanns via ffmpeg-devel
2024-07-18 9:37 ` Stefan Oltmanns via ffmpeg-devel
2024-07-18 11:25 ` Anton Khirnov
2024-07-18 15:38 ` Stefan Oltmanns via ffmpeg-devel
2024-07-22 6:57 ` Anton Khirnov [this message]
2024-07-23 0:24 ` Stefan Oltmanns via ffmpeg-devel
2024-07-18 11:08 ` Ramiro Polla
2024-07-18 12:48 ` Stefan Oltmanns via ffmpeg-devel
2024-07-18 13:04 ` Ramiro Polla
2024-07-18 13:41 ` Stefan Oltmanns via ffmpeg-devel
2024-07-18 14:21 ` Ramiro Polla
2024-07-18 14:53 ` Stefan Oltmanns via ffmpeg-devel
2024-07-19 17:05 ` Stephen Hutchinson
2024-07-18 15:23 ` epirat07
2024-07-21 22:08 ` Stefan Oltmanns via ffmpeg-devel
2024-07-21 22:15 ` Hendrik Leppkes
2024-07-22 0:42 ` Stefan Oltmanns via ffmpeg-devel
2024-07-22 6:36 ` Hendrik Leppkes
2024-07-22 12:13 ` Ramiro Polla
2024-07-22 13:41 ` Hendrik Leppkes
2024-07-22 18:28 ` Ramiro Polla
2024-07-22 13:52 ` Stefan Oltmanns via ffmpeg-devel
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