From: Anton Khirnov <anton@khirnov.net>
To: FFmpeg development discussions and patches <ffmpeg-devel@ffmpeg.org>
Subject: Re: [FFmpeg-devel] [PATCH 10/39] lavc/ffv1dec: move the bitreader to stack
Date: Sat, 20 Jul 2024 14:15:46 +0200
Message-ID: <172147774625.21847.7009184520478275108@lain.khirnov.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20240718181815.GG4991@pb2>
Quoting Michael Niedermayer (2024-07-18 20:18:15)
> On Thu, Jul 18, 2024 at 05:31:16PM +0200, Anton Khirnov wrote:
> > Quoting Michael Niedermayer (2024-07-18 16:48:06)
> > > On Thu, Jul 18, 2024 at 11:08:59AM +0200, Anton Khirnov wrote:
> > > > Quoting Michael Niedermayer (2024-07-18 00:42:05)
> [...]
> > > >
> > > > Another factor that matters in efficient cache use is e.g. not having
> > > > multiple copies of the same constant data scattered around, which you're
> > > > objecting to in my other patches.
> > >
> > > copying the actually used small data together per slice
> > > where its accessed per pixel should improve teh speed per pixel while
> > > making the per slice code a little slower. now we have 4 slices maybe
> > > and millions of pixels. Thats why this can give an overall gain
> >
> > This all sounds like premature optimization, AKA the root of all evil.
> > As I said above, I intended to make this code more readable, not faster.
> > Yet somehow it became faster anyway, which suggests this code is not
> > very optimized. So then arguing whether this or that specific change
> > adds or removes a few cycles per frame seems like a waste time to me.
>
> Making the code faster is welcome
> Making the code cleaner is welcome
>
> whats faster is objective (mostly)
> whats cleaner is not objective. So we could agree or disagree on that
>
> Things that make the code slower, and dont provide a larger improvment
> elsewhere i do object to
>
> About "premature optimization", i have not seen any optimizations being
> removed that made the code hard to maintain or work with so this is
> not a nice statement.
> And iam the first to suport making the code cleaner and easier to maintain
> as iam the one maintaining it.
>
> Either way, thanks for your efforts in improving the ffv1 code, they
> are appreciated, my objections are not meant to hinder improvments
> i just want to make sure it all one by one is an improvment
As I said in my other reply, patches 07-25 moving per-slice data to a
new per-slice struct should be considered as one change, as it does not
make sense to apply only some of them and not the others. Some of them,
taken individually, may introduce transient slowdown, because
temporarily there are two per-slice contexts.
--
Anton Khirnov
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2024-07-16 17:11 [FFmpeg-devel] [PATCH 01/39] tests/fate/vcodec: add vsynth tests for FFV1 version 2 Anton Khirnov
2024-07-16 17:11 ` [FFmpeg-devel] [PATCH 02/39] lavc/ffv1dec: declare loop variables in the loop where possible Anton Khirnov
2024-07-24 18:22 ` Michael Niedermayer
2024-07-16 17:11 ` [FFmpeg-devel] [PATCH 03/39] lavc/ffv1dec: simplify slice index calculation Anton Khirnov
2024-07-24 18:24 ` Michael Niedermayer
2024-07-16 17:11 ` [FFmpeg-devel] [PATCH 04/39] lavc/ffv1dec: drop FFV1Context.cur Anton Khirnov
2024-07-24 18:27 ` Michael Niedermayer
2024-07-16 17:11 ` [FFmpeg-devel] [PATCH 05/39] lavc/ffv1dec: drop a pointless variable in decode_slice() Anton Khirnov
2024-07-24 18:58 ` Michael Niedermayer
2024-07-16 17:11 ` [FFmpeg-devel] [PATCH 06/39] lavc/ffv1dec: move copy_fields() under HAVE_THREADS Anton Khirnov
2024-07-24 18:58 ` Michael Niedermayer
2024-07-16 17:11 ` [FFmpeg-devel] [PATCH 07/39] lavc/ffv1: add a per-slice context Anton Khirnov
2024-07-24 19:01 ` Michael Niedermayer
2024-07-16 17:11 ` [FFmpeg-devel] [PATCH 08/39] lavc/ffv1: move sample_buffer to the " Anton Khirnov
2024-07-24 19:04 ` Michael Niedermayer
2024-07-16 17:11 ` [FFmpeg-devel] [PATCH 09/39] lavc/ffv1: move run_index " Anton Khirnov
2024-07-17 22:49 ` Michael Niedermayer
2024-07-18 15:36 ` Anton Khirnov
2024-07-18 17:41 ` Michael Niedermayer
2024-07-16 17:11 ` [FFmpeg-devel] [PATCH 10/39] lavc/ffv1dec: move the bitreader to stack Anton Khirnov
2024-07-17 22:42 ` Michael Niedermayer
2024-07-18 9:08 ` Anton Khirnov
2024-07-18 14:48 ` Michael Niedermayer
2024-07-18 15:31 ` Anton Khirnov
2024-07-18 15:35 ` Paul B Mahol
2024-07-18 18:18 ` Michael Niedermayer
2024-07-20 12:15 ` Anton Khirnov [this message]
2024-07-16 17:11 ` [FFmpeg-devel] [PATCH 11/39] lavc/ffv1enc: move bit writer to per-slice context Anton Khirnov
2024-07-24 19:07 ` Michael Niedermayer
2024-07-16 17:11 ` [FFmpeg-devel] [PATCH 12/39] lavc/ffv1: drop redundant FFV1Context.quant_table Anton Khirnov
2024-07-17 22:37 ` Michael Niedermayer
2024-07-17 23:24 ` James Almer
2024-07-18 8:22 ` Anton Khirnov
2024-07-16 17:11 ` [FFmpeg-devel] [PATCH 13/39] lavc/ffv1: drop redundant PlaneContext.quant_table Anton Khirnov
2024-07-17 22:32 ` Michael Niedermayer
2024-07-18 8:20 ` Anton Khirnov
2024-07-18 14:31 ` Michael Niedermayer
2024-07-18 15:14 ` Anton Khirnov
2024-07-18 17:03 ` Michael Niedermayer
2024-07-18 15:31 ` Paul B Mahol
2024-07-18 15:43 ` Anton Khirnov
2024-07-18 15:47 ` Paul B Mahol
2024-07-18 17:40 ` Michael Niedermayer
2024-07-20 9:22 ` Anton Khirnov
2024-07-16 17:11 ` [FFmpeg-devel] [PATCH 14/39] lavc/ffv1: drop write-only PlaneContext.interlace_bit_state Anton Khirnov
2024-07-24 19:12 ` Michael Niedermayer
2024-07-16 17:11 ` [FFmpeg-devel] [PATCH 15/39] lavc/ffv1: always use the main context values of plane_count/transparency Anton Khirnov
2024-07-24 19:15 ` Michael Niedermayer
2024-07-16 17:11 ` [FFmpeg-devel] [PATCH 16/39] lavc/ffv1: move FFV1Context.slice_{coding_mode, rct_.y_coef} to per-slice context Anton Khirnov
2024-07-24 19:16 ` Michael Niedermayer
2024-07-16 17:11 ` [FFmpeg-devel] [PATCH 17/39] lavc/ffv1: always use the main context values of ac Anton Khirnov
2024-07-24 19:23 ` Michael Niedermayer
2024-07-31 8:33 ` [FFmpeg-devel] [PATCH v2 " Anton Khirnov
2024-07-31 12:20 ` Michael Niedermayer
2024-07-16 17:11 ` [FFmpeg-devel] [PATCH 18/39] lavc/ffv1: move FFV1Context.plane to per-slice context Anton Khirnov
2024-07-16 17:11 ` [FFmpeg-devel] [PATCH 19/39] lavc/ffv1: move RangeCoder " Anton Khirnov
2024-07-24 19:28 ` Michael Niedermayer
2024-07-16 17:11 ` [FFmpeg-devel] [PATCH 20/39] lavc/ffv1enc: store per-slice rc_stat(2?) in FFV1SliceContext Anton Khirnov
2024-07-24 19:30 ` Michael Niedermayer
2024-07-16 17:11 ` [FFmpeg-devel] [PATCH 21/39] lavc/ffv1: move ac_byte_count to per-slice context Anton Khirnov
2024-07-24 19:31 ` Michael Niedermayer
2024-07-16 17:11 ` [FFmpeg-devel] [PATCH 22/39] lavc/ffv1enc: stop using per-slice FFV1Context Anton Khirnov
2024-07-24 19:42 ` Michael Niedermayer
2024-07-31 8:50 ` [FFmpeg-devel] [PATCH v2 " Anton Khirnov
2024-07-31 12:32 ` Michael Niedermayer
2024-07-16 17:11 ` [FFmpeg-devel] [PATCH 23/39] lavc/ffv1dec: move slice_reset_contexts to per-slice context Anton Khirnov
2024-07-24 19:44 ` Michael Niedermayer
2024-07-16 17:11 ` [FFmpeg-devel] [PATCH 24/39] lavc/ffv1dec: move slice_damaged " Anton Khirnov
2024-07-24 19:45 ` Michael Niedermayer
2024-07-16 17:11 ` [FFmpeg-devel] [PATCH 25/39] lavc/ffv1dec: stop using per-slice FFV1Context Anton Khirnov
2024-07-24 19:48 ` Michael Niedermayer
2024-07-16 17:11 ` [FFmpeg-devel] [PATCH 26/39] lavc/ffv1dec: inline copy_fields() into update_thread_context() Anton Khirnov
2024-07-24 19:48 ` Michael Niedermayer
2024-07-16 17:11 ` [FFmpeg-devel] [PATCH 27/39] lavc/ffv1: change FFV1SliceContext.plane into a RefStruct object Anton Khirnov
2024-07-24 19:53 ` Michael Niedermayer
2024-08-01 8:17 ` Anton Khirnov
2024-07-16 17:11 ` [FFmpeg-devel] [PATCH 28/39] lavc/ffv1dec: fix races in accessing FFV1SliceContext.slice_damaged Anton Khirnov
2024-07-17 20:51 ` Michael Niedermayer
2024-07-22 9:43 ` [FFmpeg-devel] [PATCH 1/3] lavc/ffv1dec: drop code handling AV_PIX_FMT_FLAG_PAL Anton Khirnov
2024-07-22 9:43 ` [FFmpeg-devel] [PATCH 2/3] lavc/ffv1: move damage handling code to decode_slice() Anton Khirnov
2024-07-22 21:14 ` Michael Niedermayer
2024-07-23 6:52 ` Anton Khirnov
2024-07-23 20:14 ` Michael Niedermayer
2024-07-23 21:02 ` Anton Khirnov
2024-07-22 9:43 ` [FFmpeg-devel] [PATCH 3/3] lavc/ffv1dec: fix races in accessing FFV1SliceContext.slice_damaged Anton Khirnov
2024-07-16 17:11 ` [FFmpeg-devel] [PATCH 29/39] lavc/thread: move generic-layer API to avcodec_internal.h Anton Khirnov
2024-07-16 17:11 ` [FFmpeg-devel] [PATCH 30/39] lavc/internal: document the precise meaning of AVCodecInternal.draining Anton Khirnov
2024-07-16 17:11 ` [FFmpeg-devel] [PATCH 31/39] lavc/decode: wrap AV_FRAME_FLAG_DISCARD handling in a loop Anton Khirnov
2024-07-17 21:20 ` Michael Niedermayer
2024-07-18 8:14 ` Anton Khirnov
2024-07-16 17:11 ` [FFmpeg-devel] [PATCH 32/39] lavc/decode: reindent Anton Khirnov
2024-07-16 17:11 ` [FFmpeg-devel] [PATCH 33/39] lavc: convert frame threading to the receive_frame() pattern Anton Khirnov
2024-07-24 18:44 ` Michael Niedermayer
2024-07-31 11:26 ` Anton Khirnov
2024-07-31 12:59 ` Michael Niedermayer
2024-08-01 14:33 ` [FFmpeg-devel] [PATCH] lavc/ffv1dec: fix races in accessing FFV1SliceContext.slice_damaged Anton Khirnov
2024-08-06 4:39 ` Anton Khirnov
2024-08-09 21:26 ` Michael Niedermayer
2024-07-16 17:11 ` [FFmpeg-devel] [PATCH 34/39] lavc/decode: reindent after previous commit Anton Khirnov
2024-08-12 12:49 ` Anton Khirnov
2024-07-16 17:11 ` [FFmpeg-devel] [PATCH 35/39] lavc/hevcdec: switch to receive_frame() Anton Khirnov
2024-07-16 17:11 ` [FFmpeg-devel] [PATCH 36/39] lavc: add private container FIFO API Anton Khirnov
2024-08-10 0:09 ` Andreas Rheinhardt
2024-08-12 12:14 ` Anton Khirnov
2024-07-16 17:11 ` [FFmpeg-devel] [PATCH 37/39] lavc/hevcdec: use a ContainerFifo to hold frames scheduled for output Anton Khirnov
2024-08-09 23:52 ` Andreas Rheinhardt
2024-08-12 12:28 ` Anton Khirnov
2024-07-16 17:11 ` [FFmpeg-devel] [PATCH 38/39] lavc/hevcdec: simplify output logic Anton Khirnov
2024-07-16 17:11 ` [FFmpeg-devel] [PATCH 39/39] lavc/hevcdec: call ff_thread_finish_setup() even if hwaccel is in use Anton Khirnov
2024-07-24 18:20 ` [FFmpeg-devel] [PATCH 01/39] tests/fate/vcodec: add vsynth tests for FFV1 version 2 Michael Niedermayer
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