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From: Anton Khirnov <anton@khirnov.net>
To: FFmpeg development discussions and patches
	<ffmpeg-devel@ffmpeg.org>, Frank Plowman <post@frankplowman.com>
Subject: Re: [FFmpeg-devel] [PATCH v2] lavc/vvc: Error if SPS ID is duplicated within CVS
Date: Sun, 07 Apr 2024 14:16:12 +0200
Message-ID: <171249217232.30127.8333600895527168051@lain.khirnov.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAFXK13f1ZPj6-n06Z5-KDa9z9MqkKGtukWG9kmTen5AUNo1Pxg@mail.gmail.com>

Quoting Nuo Mi (2024-04-07 14:13:58)
> On Sun, Apr 7, 2024 at 2:15 PM Anton Khirnov <anton@khirnov.net> wrote:
> 
> > Quoting Frank Plowman (2024-04-06 15:46:09)
> > > Key line from the spec is:
> > >
> > > "All SPS NAL units with a particular value of sps_seq_parameter_set_id
> > > in a CVS shall have the same content."
> > >
> > > Prior to this patch, the VVC decoder's behaviour on encountering a
> > > duplicated SPS ID (within the entire bitstream, not restricted to
> > > a CVS) was simply to replace the entry in the SPS lookup table with the
> > > new data.  Illegal bitstreams with multiple SPSs in the same CVS sharing
> > > an ID but differing elsewhere could cause all manner of issues.
> > >
> > > The patch tracks which SPS IDs have been used in the given CVS using the
> > > new sps_id_used field of VVCParamSets.  If it encounters an SPS with an
> > > ID already in use and whose content differs from the previous SPS, it
> > > throws an AVERROR_INVALIDDATA.
> >
> > I wonder if it wouldn't be better to do what H264/HEVC do, which is
> > replace the SPS, invalidate the PPSes that depend on the old one, and
> > start a new CVS.
> >
> Consider two scenarios:
> If the first SPS is incorrect, the entire CVS is undecodable because the
> key frame is wrong, no matter what we do.
> If the second SPS is incorrect, H.264/HEVC can't recover until the next CVS
> because it replaces the correct SPS with the wrong one. However, the
> current VVC logic allows for recovery in such cases.
> Therefore, in the second case, the current logic may have benefits.

Could the new SPS not signal the start of a new CVS?

-- 
Anton Khirnov
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  reply	other threads:[~2024-04-07 12:16 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 6+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2024-04-06 13:46 Frank Plowman
2024-04-07  2:39 ` Nuo Mi
2024-04-07  6:15 ` Anton Khirnov
2024-04-07 12:13   ` Nuo Mi
2024-04-07 12:16     ` Anton Khirnov [this message]
2024-04-07 13:04       ` Nuo Mi

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