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From: Anton Khirnov <anton@khirnov.net>
To: FFmpeg development discussions and patches <ffmpeg-devel@ffmpeg.org>
Subject: Re: [FFmpeg-devel] [ANNOUNCE] upcoming vote: TC/CC elections
Date: Thu, 30 Nov 2023 09:08:06 +0100
Message-ID: <170133168699.8914.16014180573162512194@lain.khirnov.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <689cf145-9211-4786-afe8-943f80c895f3@gmail.com>

Quoting Derek Buitenhuis (2023-11-28 21:30:12)
> On 11/28/2023 3:50 PM, Anton Khirnov wrote:
> > Calling things generically bad is the opposite of helpful.
> 
> I cannot offer help on making a paragraph that I don't fully
> understand become more comprehensible, as that would require
> I understand it fully.

Consider the following:
1) I am neither a UI nor a voting system expert.
2) Explaining complex topics (like sophisticated voting systems) in a
   clear and easy to understand way is a very rare and highly nontrivial
   skill.
3) If you want an explanation that can be understood with no effort from
   your side, the best I can give you is: higher number = more
   preference (which is in the text already).
4) As this is a collaborative project, you are very much welcome to
   read the official documentation and supply a better explanation
   yourself, or find someone else who does.
5) As you're doing neither of these, your "word soup" and "trainwreck"
   amount just to your being an asshole to no purpose.

> But, I would again like to state these votes should be scrapped
> and redone. People literally voted the opposite of what they wanted
> to by accident, due to this.

So far we have exactly one person to whom this happened, who has notably
NOT asked to redo the vote yet. While I don't oppose redoing the vote in
principle, I also don't think it's realistic to expect a vote with 50+
voters to run with zero issues. Voting fatigue is also a real thing, so
we risk some people not voting at all in hypothetical repeat votes.

-- 
Anton Khirnov
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  parent reply	other threads:[~2023-11-30  8:08 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 45+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2023-11-05 10:02 Anton Khirnov
2023-11-06 20:06 ` Vittorio Giovara
2023-11-07 17:00   ` Anton Khirnov
2023-11-11 12:14 ` Rémi Denis-Courmont
2023-11-11 18:34 ` Michael Niedermayer
2023-11-11 18:37   ` James Almer
2023-11-11 18:48     ` Michael Niedermayer
2023-11-11 18:52       ` Nicolas George
2023-11-11 18:58         ` Vittorio Giovara
2023-11-11 19:01         ` Michael Niedermayer
2023-11-21 18:38 ` Anton Khirnov
2023-11-28  8:48 ` Anton Khirnov
2023-11-28 11:58   ` Anton Khirnov
2023-11-28 12:19     ` Ronald S. Bultje
2023-11-28 12:32       ` Paul B Mahol
2023-11-28 12:34       ` Anton Khirnov
2023-11-28 12:42         ` James Almer
2023-11-28 13:23   ` Anton Khirnov
2023-11-28 13:59     ` Devin Heitmueller
2023-11-28 14:10     ` Derek Buitenhuis
2023-11-28 14:25       ` Paul B Mahol
2023-11-28 14:30         ` Derek Buitenhuis
2023-11-28 14:32           ` Derek Buitenhuis
2023-11-28 14:49             ` Paul B Mahol
2023-11-28 15:50       ` Anton Khirnov
2023-11-28 20:30         ` Derek Buitenhuis
2023-11-29 12:22           ` Thilo Borgmann via ffmpeg-devel
2023-11-30  8:13             ` Anton Khirnov
2023-11-30  8:08           ` Anton Khirnov [this message]
2023-11-29 23:14     ` Michael Niedermayer
     [not found]       ` <927D5462-6DC7-4388-9F9A-3BD91CDEA460@cosmin.at>
2023-11-30  0:01         ` Cosmin Stejerean via ffmpeg-devel
2023-11-30  1:42           ` Ronald S. Bultje
     [not found]             ` <D4D0C816-A1A5-4D3B-A3CD-BA98EE8996E7@cosmin.at>
2023-11-30  7:16               ` Cosmin Stejerean via ffmpeg-devel
2023-11-30 21:24           ` Michael Niedermayer
2023-11-30 20:43       ` Alexander Strasser
2023-12-02 10:24   ` Anton Khirnov
2023-12-02 10:46     ` Niklas Haas
2023-12-03 18:13       ` Anton Khirnov
2023-12-05 10:07   ` Anton Khirnov
2023-12-05 10:16     ` Steven Liu
2023-12-05 11:01     ` Niklas Haas
2023-12-06  8:25       ` Anton Khirnov
2023-12-06 18:54         ` Michael Niedermayer
2023-12-05 13:28     ` James Almer
2023-12-05 14:04       ` Rémi Denis-Courmont

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