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From: Anton Khirnov <anton@khirnov.net>
To: FFmpeg development discussions and patches <ffmpeg-devel@ffmpeg.org>
Subject: Re: [FFmpeg-devel] [ANNOUNCE] upcoming vote: TC/CC elections
Date: Tue, 28 Nov 2023 13:34:17 +0100
Message-ID: <170117485768.1197.12665624837204920462@lain.khirnov.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAEEMt2kS9DrroaJdNC+eOGF_1DNo6wv-p3s9GWr2++x0u06k-g@mail.gmail.com>

Quoting Ronald S. Bultje (2023-11-28 13:19:00)
> Hi,
> 
> On Tue, Nov 28, 2023 at 6:58 AM Anton Khirnov <anton@khirnov.net> wrote:
> 
> > There are reports from people on IRC that they got confused by the
> > change and voted the reverse of what they meant. Sadly there is no way
> > to change your vote after it's been case, so if there is a nontrivial
> > number of such people, we may want to redo the vote.
> >
> 
> Serious suggestion: maybe the vote invitation email (or something similar)
> should explain in more detail how the voting is to be done if it is
> non-trivial?

1) I did not expect that picking proportional representation would
   change the UI so dramatically. And since I did not know what it would
   look like, I could hardly describe it in detail.
2) The UI in general could be improved, to put it mildly. Even for
   "normal" votes there is the potential point of confusion that more
   preferred candidates are higher visually, but have a lower numerical
   rank. So a statements like "X ranks higher than Y" could potentially
   be interpreted either way.
3) People generally dislike parsing long detailed explanations. Making
   the text longer could cause more voters to misinterpret it, or not
   bother reading it at all.

So while I'm all for improving descriptions, it's not all that easy to
do. Patches welcome.

-- 
Anton Khirnov
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  parent reply	other threads:[~2023-11-28 12:34 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 45+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2023-11-05 10:02 Anton Khirnov
2023-11-06 20:06 ` Vittorio Giovara
2023-11-07 17:00   ` Anton Khirnov
2023-11-11 12:14 ` Rémi Denis-Courmont
2023-11-11 18:34 ` Michael Niedermayer
2023-11-11 18:37   ` James Almer
2023-11-11 18:48     ` Michael Niedermayer
2023-11-11 18:52       ` Nicolas George
2023-11-11 18:58         ` Vittorio Giovara
2023-11-11 19:01         ` Michael Niedermayer
2023-11-21 18:38 ` Anton Khirnov
2023-11-28  8:48 ` Anton Khirnov
2023-11-28 11:58   ` Anton Khirnov
2023-11-28 12:19     ` Ronald S. Bultje
2023-11-28 12:32       ` Paul B Mahol
2023-11-28 12:34       ` Anton Khirnov [this message]
2023-11-28 12:42         ` James Almer
2023-11-28 13:23   ` Anton Khirnov
2023-11-28 13:59     ` Devin Heitmueller
2023-11-28 14:10     ` Derek Buitenhuis
2023-11-28 14:25       ` Paul B Mahol
2023-11-28 14:30         ` Derek Buitenhuis
2023-11-28 14:32           ` Derek Buitenhuis
2023-11-28 14:49             ` Paul B Mahol
2023-11-28 15:50       ` Anton Khirnov
2023-11-28 20:30         ` Derek Buitenhuis
2023-11-29 12:22           ` Thilo Borgmann via ffmpeg-devel
2023-11-30  8:13             ` Anton Khirnov
2023-11-30  8:08           ` Anton Khirnov
2023-11-29 23:14     ` Michael Niedermayer
     [not found]       ` <927D5462-6DC7-4388-9F9A-3BD91CDEA460@cosmin.at>
2023-11-30  0:01         ` Cosmin Stejerean via ffmpeg-devel
2023-11-30  1:42           ` Ronald S. Bultje
     [not found]             ` <D4D0C816-A1A5-4D3B-A3CD-BA98EE8996E7@cosmin.at>
2023-11-30  7:16               ` Cosmin Stejerean via ffmpeg-devel
2023-11-30 21:24           ` Michael Niedermayer
2023-11-30 20:43       ` Alexander Strasser
2023-12-02 10:24   ` Anton Khirnov
2023-12-02 10:46     ` Niklas Haas
2023-12-03 18:13       ` Anton Khirnov
2023-12-05 10:07   ` Anton Khirnov
2023-12-05 10:16     ` Steven Liu
2023-12-05 11:01     ` Niklas Haas
2023-12-06  8:25       ` Anton Khirnov
2023-12-06 18:54         ` Michael Niedermayer
2023-12-05 13:28     ` James Almer
2023-12-05 14:04       ` Rémi Denis-Courmont

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