From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from ffbox0-bg.mplayerhq.hu (ffbox0-bg.ffmpeg.org [79.124.17.100]) by master.gitmailbox.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 87E25481F4 for ; Sun, 12 Nov 2023 17:53:14 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [127.0.1.1] (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ffbox0-bg.mplayerhq.hu (Postfix) with ESMTP id C2F6D68CC71; Sun, 12 Nov 2023 19:53:12 +0200 (EET) Received: from mail0.khirnov.net (red.khirnov.net [176.97.15.12]) by ffbox0-bg.mplayerhq.hu (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 0819B68CA60 for ; Sun, 12 Nov 2023 19:53:07 +0200 (EET) Received: from localhost (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by mail0.khirnov.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id BD6822404B1 for ; Sun, 12 Nov 2023 18:53:06 +0100 (CET) Received: from mail0.khirnov.net ([IPv6:::1]) by localhost (mail0.khirnov.net [IPv6:::1]) (amavis, port 10024) with ESMTP id T2d3OsVBW9If for ; Sun, 12 Nov 2023 18:53:06 +0100 (CET) Received: from lain.khirnov.net (lain.khirnov.net [IPv6:2001:67c:1138:4306::3]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) key-exchange X25519 server-signature RSA-PSS (2048 bits) server-digest SHA256 client-signature RSA-PSS (2048 bits) client-digest SHA256) (Client CN "lain.khirnov.net", Issuer "smtp.khirnov.net SMTP CA" (verified OK)) by mail0.khirnov.net (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 1F05A24043D for ; Sun, 12 Nov 2023 18:53:06 +0100 (CET) Received: by lain.khirnov.net (Postfix, from userid 1000) id F07A81601B9; Sun, 12 Nov 2023 18:53:05 +0100 (CET) From: Anton Khirnov To: FFmpeg development discussions and patches In-Reply-To: <20231112171409.GD3543730@pb2> References: <20231109174153.GB3543730@pb2> <4683214.UXO7NAtAyn@basile.remlab.net> <20231109181535.GD3543730@pb2> <1c1c9a24-780c-4db6-8365-07da86d17a12@betaapp.fastmail.com> <20231109224938.GI3543730@pb2> <20231111022435.GS3543730@pb2> <20231111172854.GV3543730@pb2> <169972711353.11195.13206204659807992351@lain.khirnov.net> <20231112171409.GD3543730@pb2> Mail-Followup-To: FFmpeg development discussions and patches Date: Sun, 12 Nov 2023 18:53:05 +0100 Message-ID: <169981158595.11195.11635462672682496562@lain.khirnov.net> User-Agent: alot/0.8.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: Re: [FFmpeg-devel] [ANNOUNCE] upcoming vote: extra members for GA X-BeenThere: ffmpeg-devel@ffmpeg.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: FFmpeg development discussions and patches List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Reply-To: FFmpeg development discussions and patches Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: ffmpeg-devel-bounces@ffmpeg.org Sender: "ffmpeg-devel" Archived-At: List-Archive: List-Post: Quoting Michael Niedermayer (2023-11-12 18:14:09) > On Sat, Nov 11, 2023 at 07:25:13PM +0100, Anton Khirnov wrote: > > In other words, you are deliberately trying to subvert the > > intent of the rules. > > no, the GA can change the rules entirely if it wants. > I can change neither the rules nor the GA. I can propose > 20 people and the GA can tell me no an all. Sure, the GA can change the rules through a collective decision. But then if you want the rules changed, you should propose a vote on such a change, not start disregarding the rules you do not like. Though given that the option you proposed that would preserve the voting rights for inactive developers was defeated by a large margin in the vote we just had, it seems to me that most of the community does not share your opinion. > > > > Also, you have just implied that people disagreeing with you are > > unthinking zombies driven by their subconscious insticts. That is a VERY > > rude thing to say about someone. > > you are accusing me of something here that i have not said and not meant. What you said, literally: > This seems a fundamental, unconcious and instinctive reaction humans have. > I called it Xenophobia, cuz it seemed like a similar concept. > Do you disagree ? (not about the term but this sort of behavior is happenin In other words, you are saying that people who disagree with you must be doing so for unconscious and/or instinctive reasons, rather than as a deliberate consciously thought-out choice. > psychology is not about > "unthinking zombies driven by their subconscious insticts" > > "Psychology is the study of mind and behavior in humans and non-humans. > Psychology includes the study of conscious and unconscious phenomena, > including feelings and thoughts." > Maybe it was a bad idea to discuss psychology during a already > heated mail thread. Discussing psychology in the abstract is a fine campfire topic, but totally off-topic on this ML and especially so in this thread. Speculating on psychological processes of actual specific people * in a public forum * without their consent * with whom you currently resolving a serious disagrement is EXTREMELY inappropriate and rude. Please never do that again. Anyway, it seems to me that this thread has exhausted itself. As I said previously in this thread - I do not object to your proposing whomever you like, as long as the people in question actively agree to being on the ballot. I will expect you to send a list of these people before next Friday. -- Anton Khirnov _______________________________________________ ffmpeg-devel mailing list ffmpeg-devel@ffmpeg.org https://ffmpeg.org/mailman/listinfo/ffmpeg-devel To unsubscribe, visit link above, or email ffmpeg-devel-request@ffmpeg.org with subject "unsubscribe".