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From: Anton Khirnov <anton@khirnov.net>
To: FFmpeg development discussions and patches <ffmpeg-devel@ffmpeg.org>
Subject: Re: [FFmpeg-devel] [ANNOUNCE] Repeat vote: GA voters list updates
Date: Sat, 11 Nov 2023 08:58:21 +0100
Message-ID: <169968950180.11195.280265863451995150@lain.khirnov.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <2e3245e3-e71d-4f17-9c5b-ba2087d30049@mail.de>

Quoting Thilo Borgmann via ffmpeg-devel (2023-11-11 08:22:19)
> Hi,
> 
> in [1] JB listed his list of authorized voters for the "GA voters list updates"
> vote.
> 
> This list does not correlate with the list Josh provided in [2].

The word 'correlate' does not mean what you seem to think it means. The
list does correlate.

> Neither does this list of 51 people [1] correlate to the 54 authorized voters
> (distinct email addresses) the CIVS system actually counted, see [3].
> 
> This can mean only one of two things, either some people on the list in [1] did
> receive more than one ballot, or JB failed to list all the authorized voters and
> ballots have been given to unknown people. Both possibilities are unacceptable
> flaws for a democratic vote.
> 
> As the admin responsible of the votes it is my duty to have supervision of all
> polls and thus it is my duty to declare this vote null and void for the flaws
> given above.

I am not aware of anyone having given you the right to do this.

> michael@niedermayer.cc
> onemda@gmail.com
> jamrial@gmail.com
> andreas.rheinhardt@gmail.com
> sw@jkqxz.net
> cus@passwd.hu
> ceffmpeg@gmail.com
> barryjzhao@tencent.com
> liuqi05@kuaishou.com
> lance.lmwang@gmail.com
> martin.vignali@gmail.com
> ffmpeg@gyani.pro
> aman@tmm1.net
> martin@martin.st
> diego@biurrun.de
> lizhong1008@gmail.com
> dev@lynne.ee
> nfxjfg@googlemail.com
> anton@khirnov.net
> atomnuker@gmail.com
> timo@rothenpieler.org
> u@pkh.me
> george@nsup.org
> yejun.guo@intel.com
> linjie.fu@intel.com
> kaustubh.raste@imgtec.com
> stebbins@jetheaddev.com
> philipl@overt.org
> andriy.gelman@gmail.com
> vittorio.giovara@gmail.com
> jerome.borsboom@carpalis.nl
> derek.buitenhuis@gmail.com
> pross@xvid.org
> jdek@itanimul.li
> kjeyapal@akamai.com
> dalecurtis@chromium.org
> jeebjp@gmail.com
> t.rapp@noa-archive.com
> vdixit@akamai.com
> zhilizhao@tencent.com
> matthieu.bouron@gmail.com
> yinshiyou-hf@loongson.cn
> zane@zanevaniperen.com
> ruiling.song@intel.com
> kjeyapal@akamai.com
> hwrenx@126.com
> modmaker@google.com
> cand@gmx.com
> foobaz86@gmail.com
> baptiste.coudurier@gmail.com

This list contains at least two duplicates, easily found by inspection.
This gives me zero confidence that any hypothetical new vote would be
any more reliable than the old one.

Also as I said before, option A won its contests against options B/C/D
by 17/7, 23/1, and 17/7, respectively. You would thus need to change 10
votes to have any chance of a different result. As the number of
disputed voters is nowhere near 10, there is no point in repeating
anything.

-- 
Anton Khirnov
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  reply	other threads:[~2023-11-11  7:58 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 42+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2023-11-11  7:22 Thilo Borgmann via ffmpeg-devel
2023-11-11  7:58 ` Anton Khirnov [this message]
2023-11-11  9:31   ` Zhao Zhili
2023-11-11  9:39   ` Lynne
2023-11-11  9:42 ` Jean-Baptiste Kempf
2023-11-14  9:28   ` Tomas Härdin
2023-11-14 12:49     ` Thilo Borgmann via ffmpeg-devel
2023-11-14 15:56       ` Tomas Härdin
2023-11-14 16:17         ` Vittorio Giovara
2023-11-14 16:46         ` Rémi Denis-Courmont
2023-11-14 18:44           ` Nicolas George
2023-11-14 19:15             ` Rémi Denis-Courmont
2023-11-14 20:12               ` Nicolas George
2023-11-14 19:19             ` Ronald S. Bultje
2023-11-14 19:28               ` Nicolas George
2023-11-14 19:32                 ` Ronald S. Bultje
2023-11-14 20:10                   ` epirat07
2023-11-14 19:34                 ` Vittorio Giovara
2023-11-14 21:02           ` Tomas Härdin
2023-11-11  9:54 ` Jean-Baptiste Kempf
2023-11-11 15:35   ` Michael Niedermayer
2023-11-11 16:58     ` Nicolas George
2023-11-11 18:29       ` Jean-Baptiste Kempf
2023-11-11 18:38       ` Michael Niedermayer
2023-11-11 10:28 ` Rémi Denis-Courmont
2023-11-11 11:15   ` Nicolas George
2023-11-11 11:49     ` Rémi Denis-Courmont
2023-11-11 12:08 ` James Almer
2023-11-11 18:43 ` Vittorio Giovara
2023-11-12 13:59 ` Thilo Borgmann via ffmpeg-devel
2023-11-12 14:03   ` James Almer
2023-11-12 14:08     ` [FFmpeg-devel] Poll: " Anton Khirnov
2023-11-12 16:23       ` Nicolas George
2023-11-12 17:31     ` [FFmpeg-devel] [ANNOUNCE] " Michael Niedermayer
2023-11-12 17:43       ` J. Dekker
2023-11-12 18:02         ` Michael Niedermayer
2023-11-12 18:34           ` Anton Khirnov
2023-11-12 21:38             ` Michael Niedermayer
2023-11-12 14:10   ` Paul B Mahol
2023-11-20 15:44 ` Thilo Borgmann via ffmpeg-devel
2023-11-20 16:06   ` Derek Buitenhuis
2023-11-20 16:08     ` J. Dekker

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