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From: Anton Khirnov <anton@khirnov.net>
To: FFmpeg development discussions and patches <ffmpeg-devel@ffmpeg.org>
Subject: Re: [FFmpeg-devel] [PATCH] avcodec/mpegvideo: Remove spec-incompliant inverse quantisation
Date: Wed, 08 Nov 2023 12:40:30 +0100
Message-ID: <169944363034.11195.830944857438126327@lain.khirnov.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20231031084044.GQ3543730@pb2>

Quoting Michael Niedermayer (2023-10-31 09:40:44)
> On Mon, Oct 30, 2023 at 02:11:27PM +0100, Andreas Rheinhardt wrote:
> > Section 7.4.4 of the MPEG-2 specifications requires that the
> > last bit of the last coefficient be toggled so that the sum
> > of all coefficients is odd; both our decoder and encoder
> > did this only if the bitexact flag has been set (although
> > stuff like this should be behind AV_CODEC_FLAG2_FAST).
> > This patch changes this by removing the spec-incompliant
> > functions.
> 
> This commit message should include benchamarks documenting the speed loss
> (of the unquantize, the IDCT and overall)
> It is expected that the speed of some IDCTs will be impacted negativly
> as the non zero terms will prevent the skiping of some significant code
> 
> as well as information about how much PSNR improves (to the encoder input)
> 
> Also the change is a +-1 in one spot before the IDCT, the IDCT is not bitexactly
> specified in MPEG-2 so one could think of this as a
> correct implementation followed by a IDCT that was sometimes +-1 off
> instead of spec non compliance
> 
> Only after the benchmarks and PSNR is presented should we decide if this
> is a change we want

I disagree that the burden of proof should be on Andreas here. It should
be up to whoever wants to keep this code to show that it is useful.

-- 
Anton Khirnov
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  reply	other threads:[~2023-11-08 16:20 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 11+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2023-10-30 13:11 Andreas Rheinhardt
2023-10-30 18:40 ` Kieran Kunhya
2023-10-31  8:40 ` Michael Niedermayer
2023-11-08 11:40   ` Anton Khirnov [this message]
2023-11-08 20:55     ` Alexander Strasser
2023-11-08 22:58       ` Vittorio Giovara
2023-11-09 20:55         ` Alexander Strasser
2023-11-09 10:13       ` Anton Khirnov
2023-11-09 20:45         ` Alexander Strasser
2023-11-09 20:52           ` Rémi Denis-Courmont
2023-11-09 22:16             ` Michael Niedermayer

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