[FFmpeg-devel] [ANN] Poll Results: GA voters list updates

[FFmpeg-devel] [ANN] Poll Results: GA voters list updates

[Jean-Baptiste Kempf]

Yo,

Time is up, results are here:
https://vote.ffmpeg.org/cgi-bin/civs/results.pl?id=E_029f7195fed7aadf

The  1. place goes to 
A: twice a year (1st Jan & 1st July, 0:00 UTC); as an exception, the list will also be updated immediately after this vote

The  2. place goes to:
B: before each vote

The  3. place goes to:
D: keep everyone who had vote rights but add active developers each 1st Jan and 1st July, 0:00 UTC; as an exception, the 
list will also be updated immediately after this vote

The  4. place goes to:
C: never (keep the 2020 version)

The GA has spoken, so, option A is taken, with a bi-annual update.

Patches for the documentation are welcome.

Best,

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Re: [FFmpeg-devel] [ANN] Poll Results: GA voters list updates

[Anton Khirnov]

Follows the updated voter list that will be used from today until
2024-01-01.

While generating it, I noticed that Ting Fu has commits with two
different emails, and no .mailmap entry. Please add one, so the script
can count you correctly.

If anyone finds other issues with the below list, please raise them
here.

================================
Andreas Rheinhardt
Andriy Gelman
Anton Khirnov
Carl Eugen Hoyos
Clément Bœsch
Derek Buitenhuis
Devin Heitmueller
Diederick Niehorster
Fei Wang
Guo, Yejun
Gyan Doshi
Haihao Xiang
James Almer
Jan Ekström
J. Dekker
Jun Zhao
Leo Izen
Limin Wang
Linjie Fu
Lynne
Mark Thompson
Martin Storsjö
Marton Balint
Marvin Scholz
Michael Niedermayer
Nicolas George
Niklas Haas
Nuo Mi
Paul B Mahol
Peter Ross
Philip Langdale
Pierre-Anthony Lemieux
rcombs
Rémi Denis-Courmont
Shubhanshu Saxena
softworkz
Stefano Sabatini
Steven Liu
Thilo Borgmann
Timo Rothenpieler
Ting Fu
Vittorio Giovara
Wenbin Chen
Wu Jianhua
Zane van Iperen
Zhao Zhili
================================
(46 people)

Cheers,
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Re: [FFmpeg-devel] [ANN] Poll Results: GA voters list updates

[Anton Khirnov]

Quoting Anton Khirnov (2023-11-06 10:57:45)
> Follows the updated voter list that will be used from today until
> 2024-01-01.

Just realized this wording is too strict, as the list may be extended
with extra members after the next vote. So the final list will be a
superset of the above one.

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Re: [FFmpeg-devel] [ANN] Poll Results: GA voters list updates

[Alexander Strasser]

Hi all,
hi J-B!

On 2023-11-06 07:10 +0100, Jean-Baptiste Kempf wrote:
> Yo,
>
> Time is up, results are here:
> https://vote.ffmpeg.org/cgi-bin/civs/results.pl?id=E_029f7195fed7aadf

Should I have been mailed about this vote?

I'm pretty sure I could vote in 2020. Or am I just missing something?


Best regards,
  Alexander


> The  1. place goes to
> A: twice a year (1st Jan & 1st July, 0:00 UTC); as an exception, the list will also be updated immediately after this vote
>
> The  2. place goes to:
> B: before each vote
>
> The  3. place goes to:
> D: keep everyone who had vote rights but add active developers each 1st Jan and 1st July, 0:00 UTC; as an exception, the
> list will also be updated immediately after this vote
>
> The  4. place goes to:
> C: never (keep the 2020 version)
>
> The GA has spoken, so, option A is taken, with a bi-annual update.
>
> Patches for the documentation are welcome.
>
> Best,
>
> --
> Jean-Baptiste Kempf -  Vice
> +33 672 704 734
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Re: [FFmpeg-devel] [ANN] Poll Results: GA voters list updates

[Jean-Baptiste Kempf]

Hello,

On Mon, 6 Nov 2023, at 16:56, Alexander Strasser wrote:
> Hi all,
> hi J-B!
>
> On 2023-11-06 07:10 +0100, Jean-Baptiste Kempf wrote:
>> Yo,
>>
>> Time is up, results are here:
>> https://vote.ffmpeg.org/cgi-bin/civs/results.pl?id=E_029f7195fed7aadf
>
> Should I have been mailed about this vote?
> I'm pretty sure I could vote in 2020. Or am I just missing something?

You should have been mailed. 

Sorry, this is probably my mistake: it seems the list I used did not include the extra members, and I forgot to add some of them. Next time we'll add the members into the script so it can't happen again. I'm very sorry.

Hopefully, since the results are so clearly in favor of A, no single vote could change it.

However, please add yourself to the extra-members thread, so we don't forget it :)

jb
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Re: [FFmpeg-devel] [ANN] Poll Results: GA voters list updates

[Anton Khirnov]

Quoting Alexander Strasser (2023-11-06 16:56:55)
> Hi all,
> hi J-B!
> 
> On 2023-11-06 07:10 +0100, Jean-Baptiste Kempf wrote:
> > Yo,
> >
> > Time is up, results are here:
> > https://vote.ffmpeg.org/cgi-bin/civs/results.pl?id=E_029f7195fed7aadf
> 
> Should I have been mailed about this vote?
> 
> I'm pretty sure I could vote in 2020. Or am I just missing something?

As per the rules:
> Additional members are added to the General Assembly through a vote
> after proposal by a member of the General Assembly. They are part of
> the GA for two years, after which they need a confirmation by the GA.

your voting rights expired after 2 years and were not renewed, since
nobody organized a new vote.

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Re: [FFmpeg-devel] [ANN] Poll Results: GA voters list updates

[Alexander Strasser]

Hi Anton!

On 2023-11-09 13:15 +0100, Anton Khirnov wrote:
> Quoting Alexander Strasser (2023-11-06 16:56:55)
> > On 2023-11-06 07:10 +0100, Jean-Baptiste Kempf wrote:
> > > Yo,
> > >
> > > Time is up, results are here:
> > > https://vote.ffmpeg.org/cgi-bin/civs/results.pl?id=E_029f7195fed7aadf
> >
> > Should I have been mailed about this vote?
> >
> > I'm pretty sure I could vote in 2020. Or am I just missing something?
>
> As per the rules:
> > Additional members are added to the General Assembly through a vote
> > after proposal by a member of the General Assembly. They are part of
> > the GA for two years, after which they need a confirmation by the GA.
>
> your voting rights expired after 2 years and were not renewed, since
> nobody organized a new vote.

Interesting. That could be the reason why I was left out. Not sure
it completely fits to the information so far. In any way it's worth
pointing out. Thanks.


What I don't understand:

> after which they need a confirmation by the GA

1. Does that mean all additional members drop out and need a
   confirmation by the remaining GA?

2. What does it exactly mean to need an confirmation?
   Does each additional member need to ask for a confirmation
   after 2 years?

   Or should there be a GA vote, every 2 years, for all
   additional members that would be dropped (after asking them
   if they want to stay in the GA)?

3. In which way is point 2 to be co-ordinated with new votes
   after 2 years?

The text you quoted (according to my Git archaeology it wasn't
changed; only reformatted) is unfortunately a bit ambiguous and
unclear :(


Best regards,
  Alexander
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