From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from ffbox0-bg.mplayerhq.hu (ffbox0-bg.ffmpeg.org [79.124.17.100]) by master.gitmailbox.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7B19B4749E for ; Tue, 10 Oct 2023 13:33:32 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [127.0.1.1] (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ffbox0-bg.mplayerhq.hu (Postfix) with ESMTP id E2A8868CA54; Tue, 10 Oct 2023 16:33:29 +0300 (EEST) Received: from mail0.khirnov.net (red.khirnov.net [176.97.15.12]) by ffbox0-bg.mplayerhq.hu (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 0BF4168C7EB for ; Tue, 10 Oct 2023 16:33:23 +0300 (EEST) Received: from localhost (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by mail0.khirnov.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B020124048D for ; Tue, 10 Oct 2023 15:33:22 +0200 (CEST) Received: from mail0.khirnov.net ([IPv6:::1]) by localhost (mail0.khirnov.net [IPv6:::1]) (amavis, port 10024) with ESMTP id 9VFHnGqwfRR0 for ; Tue, 10 Oct 2023 15:33:22 +0200 (CEST) Received: from lain.khirnov.net (lain.khirnov.net [IPv6:2001:67c:1138:4306::3]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) key-exchange X25519 server-signature RSA-PSS (2048 bits) server-digest SHA256 client-signature RSA-PSS (2048 bits) client-digest SHA256) (Client CN "lain.khirnov.net", Issuer "smtp.khirnov.net SMTP CA" (verified OK)) by mail0.khirnov.net (Postfix) with ESMTPS id E26502400FF for ; Tue, 10 Oct 2023 15:33:21 +0200 (CEST) Received: by lain.khirnov.net (Postfix, from userid 1000) id C48E11601B9; Tue, 10 Oct 2023 15:33:21 +0200 (CEST) From: Anton Khirnov To: FFmpeg development discussions and patches In-Reply-To: <20231010125853.GF3543730@pb2> References: <20231010115645.GE3543730@pb2> <169694117745.6638.18128071000996447834@lain.khirnov.net> <20231010125853.GF3543730@pb2> Mail-Followup-To: FFmpeg development discussions and patches Date: Tue, 10 Oct 2023 15:33:21 +0200 Message-ID: <169694480178.6638.6386851682644006820@lain.khirnov.net> User-Agent: alot/0.8.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: Re: [FFmpeg-devel] [RFC] AG (GA?) VOTE X-BeenThere: ffmpeg-devel@ffmpeg.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: FFmpeg development discussions and patches List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Reply-To: FFmpeg development discussions and patches Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: ffmpeg-devel-bounces@ffmpeg.org Sender: "ffmpeg-devel" Archived-At: List-Archive: List-Post: Quoting Michael Niedermayer (2023-10-10 14:58:53) > On Tue, Oct 10, 2023 at 02:32:57PM +0200, Anton Khirnov wrote: > > Quoting Michael Niedermayer (2023-10-10 13:56:45) > > > Hi all > > > > > > a vote on the General Assembly composition was apparently initiated with > > > a duration of 6 days, i saw this in my inbox: > > > "1009 23:49 Jean-Baptiste K (3,4K) Poll: FFmpeg AG members rules" > > > > > > There was no real prior discussion on the mailing list about this. > > > There are 2 choices which are similar > > > (update the list before each vote and update it twice a year) > > > And a 3rd option that is probably not what the "opposition" wants I think > > > (use the 2020 version, never update) > > > > "opposition"? > > Who is this opposition, who are they opposed to, and why the scare quotes? > > > > > First its neccessary to give the community a chance to discuss the GA composition > > > choices, collect suggestions and then do a vote > > > > The community did have the chance to discuss this. The point was raised > > at VDD over 2 weeks ago, at the developer meeting you participated in. > > You even commented on this specific point. > > My health was somewhat bad on that day, theres no way i could have > within a minute from learning about this during the meeting thought > about what choices would make sense and suggest them. I am not saying you have to come up with options on the spot, I'm saying you were aware of the intent to have a vote on this. > > > > Then a summary of the meeting (including the intent to have a vote on > > this) was sent to this mailing list. If there was no discussion then > > perhaps it was because nobody was interested in discussing it. > > > > > Now iam quite unprepared to really suggest something as i also didnt think about this > > > much or expect this vote now but at least something like > > > * keep everyone who had vote rights but add active developers each jan/july > > > > > > Is a more honest choice for the "opposition" than "never update" > > > > Why did you not suggest this choice before? You had more than two weeks > > to do so. > > Because it was said voting to happen after 6.1, So i thought there is > plenty of time as 6.1 is not even branched yet I am not aware of anyone having said that. The main impetus for this vote is to unblock other votes we need to have. The foremost of them is electing new TC and CC, which is very long overdue at this point. That should be done before voting on SDR, which presumably you want to happen before 6.1 -- Anton Khirnov _______________________________________________ ffmpeg-devel mailing list ffmpeg-devel@ffmpeg.org https://ffmpeg.org/mailman/listinfo/ffmpeg-devel To unsubscribe, visit link above, or email ffmpeg-devel-request@ffmpeg.org with subject "unsubscribe".