From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from ffbox0-bg.mplayerhq.hu (ffbox0-bg.ffmpeg.org [79.124.17.100]) by master.gitmailbox.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 06333472B0 for ; Wed, 4 Oct 2023 14:51:22 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [127.0.1.1] (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ffbox0-bg.mplayerhq.hu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3110668CC4C; Wed, 4 Oct 2023 17:51:20 +0300 (EEST) Received: from mail0.khirnov.net (red.khirnov.net [176.97.15.12]) by ffbox0-bg.mplayerhq.hu (Postfix) with ESMTPS id A741868CA86 for ; Wed, 4 Oct 2023 17:51:13 +0300 (EEST) Received: from localhost (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by mail0.khirnov.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6981A240490 for ; Wed, 4 Oct 2023 16:51:13 +0200 (CEST) Received: from mail0.khirnov.net ([IPv6:::1]) by localhost (mail0.khirnov.net [IPv6:::1]) (amavis, port 10024) with ESMTP id o3NcgIXy8e_W for ; Wed, 4 Oct 2023 16:51:12 +0200 (CEST) Received: from lain.khirnov.net (lain.khirnov.net [IPv6:2001:67c:1138:4306::3]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) key-exchange X25519 server-signature RSA-PSS (2048 bits) server-digest SHA256 client-signature RSA-PSS (2048 bits) client-digest SHA256) (Client CN "lain.khirnov.net", Issuer "smtp.khirnov.net SMTP CA" (verified OK)) by mail0.khirnov.net (Postfix) with ESMTPS id C1915240445 for ; Wed, 4 Oct 2023 16:51:12 +0200 (CEST) Received: by lain.khirnov.net (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 9D2E41601B9; Wed, 4 Oct 2023 16:51:12 +0200 (CEST) From: Anton Khirnov To: FFmpeg development discussions and patches In-Reply-To: <20230927180312.GQ3543730@pb2> References: <20230924100938.GH3543730@pb2> <20230927180312.GQ3543730@pb2> Mail-Followup-To: FFmpeg development discussions and patches Date: Wed, 04 Oct 2023 16:51:12 +0200 Message-ID: <169643107262.6638.16724221835933025711@lain.khirnov.net> User-Agent: alot/0.8.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: Re: [FFmpeg-devel] VDD 2023, FFmpeg meeting notes, (23-11-2023, 4pm, Dublin) X-BeenThere: ffmpeg-devel@ffmpeg.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: FFmpeg development discussions and patches List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Reply-To: FFmpeg development discussions and patches Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: ffmpeg-devel-bounces@ffmpeg.org Sender: "ffmpeg-devel" Archived-At: List-Archive: List-Post: Quoting Michael Niedermayer (2023-09-27 20:03:12) > > again IMO any change to what SW we use needs more discussion than a > > "who likes gitlab, who likes gitwhatever" vote > > I think its very important that we do not loose independance and run > our own infrastructure. > > That said. > > I think we should make a detailed list of what people actually want > closing bugs with git commits ? > creating new tickets with mails ? > controlling the whole infrastructure from the command line ? > ... > > then with sw/implementation options then > (maybe some of the wanted things can be easily added even to some infrastructure options > that otherwise lack them) > > expected costs (admin time) of each and > expected benefits (developer time saved) One highly important potential benefit you're not considering is how many people fail to become developers because the barrier to entry is too high or because the project gives off the air of obsolescence. I do share many of your concerns though, and this should definitely be considered in detail. -- Anton Khirnov _______________________________________________ ffmpeg-devel mailing list ffmpeg-devel@ffmpeg.org https://ffmpeg.org/mailman/listinfo/ffmpeg-devel To unsubscribe, visit link above, or email ffmpeg-devel-request@ffmpeg.org with subject "unsubscribe".