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From: Anton Khirnov <anton@khirnov.net>
To: FFmpeg development discussions and patches <ffmpeg-devel@ffmpeg.org>
Subject: Re: [FFmpeg-devel] [PATCH 1/2] doc/developer: Reviews must be constructive
Date: Fri, 25 Aug 2023 17:23:45 +0200
Message-ID: <169297702590.20400.2202310309151021276@lain.khirnov.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <3282313.DLlML90AEa@basile.remlab.net>

Quoting Rémi Denis-Courmont (2023-08-25 17:09:55)
> Le perjantaina 25. elokuuta 2023, 17.58.40 EEST Anton Khirnov a écrit :
> > > And then sometimes an argument has been argued to death previously and
> > > there is really no point to rehash it again and again. If people cannot
> > > agree, they should refer to the TC, not brute force the review through
> > > overwhelming insistance.
> > 
> > I think we just have different interpretations of the word
> > 'constructive' here.
> > I certainly agree that some patches are just not acceptable - I certainly
> > did not mean to imply that there must be a way forward for all patches.
> 
> I think that you do not agree with the generally accepted meaning of 
> "constructive" in this context. By definition a review cannot be constructive, 
> as in helpful or conducive of a way forward, if it argues that there are no 
> ways forward.

Explaining why a patch is not acceptable is helpful IMO.
Saying 'no', on the other hand, is not.

> Maybe you meant "supported" or "corroborated".

Might as well describe it in more than one word, since apparently it's
so unclear. Would you be in favor of something along the lines of

  Nontrivial (i.e. other than cosmetics or accepting the patch) reviews
  must be based on technical arguments. If the reviewer fails to provide
  arguments for rejecting the patch or requesting changes, then the
  review may be disregarded.

-- 
Anton Khirnov
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  reply	other threads:[~2023-08-25 15:23 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 28+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2023-08-24 19:56 [FFmpeg-devel] [PATCH 0/2] [RFC] doc/developer patch review improvements Michael Niedermayer
2023-08-24 19:56 ` [FFmpeg-devel] [PATCH 1/2] doc/developer: Reviews must be constructive Michael Niedermayer
2023-08-25  1:56   ` Vittorio Giovara
2023-08-25  6:46     ` Nicolas George
2023-08-25  9:22       ` Paul B Mahol
2023-08-25 17:23       ` Vittorio Giovara
2023-08-25 14:06     ` Anton Khirnov
2023-08-25 14:22   ` Rémi Denis-Courmont
2023-08-25 14:58     ` Anton Khirnov
2023-08-25 15:09       ` Rémi Denis-Courmont
2023-08-25 15:23         ` Anton Khirnov [this message]
2023-08-25 17:26           ` Vittorio Giovara
2023-08-25 17:35             ` Anton Khirnov
2023-08-25 17:34         ` Leo Izen
2023-08-25 17:39           ` Nicolas George
2023-08-24 19:56 ` [FFmpeg-devel] [PATCH 2/2] doc/developer: Code pushed without patches on ffmpeg-devel must be announced on the ML Michael Niedermayer
2023-08-24 20:04   ` Andreas Rheinhardt
2023-08-25 15:34     ` Michael Niedermayer
2023-08-25 15:36       ` Jean-Baptiste Kempf
2023-08-25 15:47         ` Paul B Mahol
2023-08-25 16:27         ` Nicolas George
2023-08-25 16:33           ` Jean-Baptiste Kempf
2023-08-25 17:16             ` Nicolas George
2023-08-25 17:25               ` James Almer
2023-08-25 17:42                 ` Nicolas George
2023-08-25 21:41                   ` Ronald S. Bultje
2023-08-24 20:06   ` James Almer
2023-08-24 20:23     ` Andreas Rheinhardt

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