From: Anton Khirnov <anton@khirnov.net>
To: FFmpeg development discussions and patches <ffmpeg-devel@ffmpeg.org>
Subject: Re: [FFmpeg-devel] [PATCH 2/2] aviobuf: Avoid clearing the whole buffer in fill_buffer
Date: Fri, 24 Mar 2023 12:11:53 +0100
Message-ID: <167965631336.27013.11967328893560145187@lain.khirnov.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <b1e669c7-7a27-6e34-2c3e-d8f8bca6ae24@martin.st>
Quoting Martin Storsjö (2023-03-21 21:24:25)
> On Tue, 21 Mar 2023, Marton Balint wrote:
>
> >
> >
> > On Tue, 21 Mar 2023, Martin Storsjö wrote:
> >
> >> Normally, fill_buffer reads in one max_packet_size/IO_BUFFER_SIZE
> >> worth of data into the buffer, slowly filling the buffer until it
> >> is full.
> >>
> >> Previously, when the buffer was full, fill_buffer would start over
> >> from the start, effectively discarding all the previously buffered
> >> data.
> >>
> >> For files that are read linearly, the previous behaviour was fine.
> >>
> >> For files that exhibit some amount of nonlinear read patterns,
> >> especially mov files (where ff_configure_buffers_for_index
> >> increases the buffer size to accomodate for the nonlinear reading!)
> >> we would mostly be able to seek within the buffer - but whenever
> >> we've hit the maximum buffer size, we'd discard most of the buffer
> >> and start over with a very small buffer, so the next seek backwards
> >> would end up outside of the buffer.
> >>
> >> Keep one fourth of the buffered data, moving it to the start of
> >> the buffer, freeing the rest to be refilled with future data.
> >>
> >> For mov files with nonlinear read patterns, this almost entirely
> >> avoids doing seeks on the lower IO level, where we previously would
> >> end up doing seeks occasionally.
> >
> > Maybe the demuxer should use ffio_ensure_seekback() instead if it knows
> > that a seekback will happen? Unconditional memmove of even fourth of all
> > data does not seem like a good idea.
>
> Right, it's probably not ideal to do this unconditionally.
>
> However, it's not that the demuxer really knows that a seekback _will_
> happen - unless we make it inspect the next couple index entries. And I
> don't think we should make the demuxer pre-analyze the next access
> locations, but keep optimization like this on the separate layer. That
> way, it works as expected as long as the seeks are short enough within the
> expected tolerance, and falls back graciously on regular seeking for the
> accesses that are weirder than that.
I suppose changing the buffer into a ring buffer so you don't have to
move the data is not feasible?
--
Anton Khirnov
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next prev parent reply other threads:[~2023-03-24 11:12 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 14+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2023-03-21 12:37 [FFmpeg-devel] [PATCH 1/2] libavformat: Improve ff_configure_buffers_for_index for excessive deltas Martin Storsjö
2023-03-21 12:37 ` [FFmpeg-devel] [PATCH 2/2] aviobuf: Avoid clearing the whole buffer in fill_buffer Martin Storsjö
2023-03-21 19:29 ` Marton Balint
2023-03-21 20:24 ` Martin Storsjö
2023-03-24 11:11 ` Anton Khirnov [this message]
2023-03-24 11:25 ` Martin Storsjö
2023-03-24 11:55 ` Anton Khirnov
2023-03-24 20:45 ` Marton Balint
2023-03-24 21:05 ` Martin Storsjö
2023-03-24 21:35 ` Marton Balint
2023-03-24 21:41 ` Martin Storsjö
2023-03-24 21:49 ` [FFmpeg-devel] [PATCH 1/2] libavformat: Improve ff_configure_buffers_for_index for excessive deltas Marton Balint
2023-03-25 0:37 ` Michael Niedermayer
2023-03-25 22:17 ` Martin Storsjö
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