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From: Anton Khirnov <anton@khirnov.net>
To: 'FFmpeg development discussions and patches' <ffmpeg-devel@ffmpeg.org>
Subject: Re: [FFmpeg-devel] [Internet]Re: [PATCH v2 5/7] avcodec/mediacodecenc: remove the strategy to create DTS
Date: Wed, 04 Jan 2023 16:15:36 +0100
Message-ID: <167284533601.4503.16792150834885869128@lain.khirnov.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <tencent_E801CEAD4542B301C85773F5937155C80905@qq.com>

Quoting Zhao Zhili (2023-01-04 15:46:52)
> 
> > From: ffmpeg-devel <ffmpeg-devel-bounces@ffmpeg.org> On Behalf Of Tomas Härdin
> > Sent: 2023年1月4日 22:00
> > To: FFmpeg development discussions and patches <ffmpeg-devel@ffmpeg.org>
> > Subject: Re: [FFmpeg-devel] [Internet]Re: [PATCH v2 5/7] avcodec/mediacodecenc: remove the strategy to create DTS
> > 
> > ons 2023-01-04 klockan 19:31 +0800 skrev zhilizhao(赵志立):
> > >
> > > > On Jan 4, 2023, at 18:16, Anton Khirnov <anton@khirnov.net> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Does this mean the encoder will produce packets with
> > > > dts=AV_NOPTS_VALUE?
> > >
> > > MediaCodec should not encode B frames by default, so dts = pts by
> > > default.
> > > B frames can be enabled explicitly, in that case dts is
> > > AV_NOPTS_VALUE.
> > >
> > > Android system’s MP4 muxer works very hard to recreate dts to
> > > workaround
> > > the limitation of MediaCodec API. It create ‘valid’ but almost
> > > useless
> > > files with a lot of jitters.
> > 
> > Maybe we should disallow B-frames entirely until the MediaCodec API is
> > fixed so as to not add to this mess?
> 
> There are some valid usecases. For example, RTP works fine without DTS.
> With some restriction or precondition, use can create DTS too. So I'd like
> to keep the feature.

It is currently an API guarantee that all encoders return valid DTS
values, so this encoder is behaving in an invalid way.

If you want to keep B-frame functionality in this half-working state,
I'd say it should be hidden behind something like -strict experimental.

-- 
Anton Khirnov
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  reply	other threads:[~2023-01-04 15:15 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 27+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
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2022-12-07  9:31 ` [FFmpeg-devel] [PATCH v2 1/7] avcodec/mediacodecenc: make each encoder has its own option Zhao Zhili
2022-12-07  9:31 ` [FFmpeg-devel] [PATCH v2 2/7] avcodec/mediacodecenc: add bitrate_mode option Zhao Zhili
2022-12-07  9:31 ` [FFmpeg-devel] [PATCH v2 3/7] avcodec/mediacodecenc: add level option Zhao Zhili
2022-12-07  9:31 ` [FFmpeg-devel] [PATCH v2 4/7] avcodec/mediacodecenc: use bsf to handle crop Zhao Zhili
2022-12-09 17:22   ` [FFmpeg-devel] [PATCH v3 3/7] " Zhao Zhili
2022-12-12 15:27     ` Tomas Härdin
2022-12-13  3:20       ` "zhilizhao(赵志立)"
2022-12-14 17:08         ` Tomas Härdin
2022-12-14 17:19           ` Tomas Härdin
2022-12-14 17:37           ` Zhao Zhili
2022-12-14 17:43             ` Zhao Zhili
2022-12-20 18:24             ` Tomas Härdin
2022-12-21  7:17               ` "zhilizhao(赵志立)"
2022-12-21 10:06                 ` Tomas Härdin
2022-12-07  9:31 ` [FFmpeg-devel] [PATCH v2 5/7] avcodec/mediacodecenc: remove the strategy to create DTS Zhao Zhili
2022-12-12 15:28   ` Tomas Härdin
2022-12-13  2:55     ` "zhilizhao(赵志立)"
2022-12-14 17:31       ` Tomas Härdin
2023-01-04 10:16   ` Anton Khirnov
2023-01-04 11:31     ` [FFmpeg-devel] [Internet]Re: " "zhilizhao(赵志立)"
2023-01-04 13:59       ` Tomas Härdin
2023-01-04 14:46         ` Zhao Zhili
2023-01-04 15:15           ` Anton Khirnov [this message]
2023-01-04 16:12             ` Zhao Zhili
2023-01-05  8:07               ` Anton Khirnov
2022-12-07  9:31 ` [FFmpeg-devel] [PATCH v2 6/7] avcodec/mediacodecenc: add max-bframes support Zhao Zhili
2022-12-07  9:31 ` [FFmpeg-devel] [PATCH v2 7/7] avcodec/mediacodecenc: add pts_as_dts option Zhao Zhili

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