On 9/15/2025 8:26 PM, Michael Niedermayer via ffmpeg-devel wrote:
> Hi Timo
> 
> On Mon, Sep 15, 2025 at 07:19:17PM +0200, Timo Rothenpieler via ffmpeg-devel wrote:
>> On 9/15/2025 2:57 PM, Michael Niedermayer via ffmpeg-devel wrote:
>>> Hi
>>>
>>> On Mon, Sep 15, 2025 at 02:06:07PM +0200, Timo Rothenpieler via ffmpeg-devel wrote:
>>>> On 15/09/2025 13:09, Michael Niedermayer via ffmpeg-devel wrote:
>>> [...]
>>>>> Ideas, Comments ?
>>>>
>>>> I do think trac is a dead end software, and we want to eventually retire it.
>>>
>>> btw, anyone knows why the trac project seems dieing / dead ?
>>> Its a quite capable issue tracker ...
>>>
>>> also how is it related to redmine, which seems to have some support
>>> for importing trac ?
>>>
>>> Have we considered redmine as alternative ?
>>> If we could do a full import of trac, this may be a smoother
>>
>> redmine is apparently a "trac clone written in ruby".
>> No idea if it's database-compatible, or just similar idea but full
>> re-implementation.
>>
> 
>> But really, I don't see how in the long run a separate issue tracker from
>> Forgejo makes sense.
>> The issue IDs will eventually clash, and integration and linking between
>> them will be a right mess.
> 
> the mix of trac and Forgejo is already a mess if theres no _clean_
> way to import the tickets
> We would always have 15 years of ticket history outside our issue tracker
> 
> if you really want to have pull requests and issues have distinct positive numbers
> well, make one even and the other odd above the value where they would clash
> so it would be
> 0..20k Trac
> 20k-25k Forgejo
> 25k+ even Forgejo
> 25k+ odd redmine

That is not something that can be done, and honestly seems a bit silly 
to me.

> 
>>
>> Plus the multi-account issue you mentioned.
> 
> redmine can accept OAuth2/OIDC logins via plugins IIUC
> would need to be tested in a test setup but there seems support for shared
> accounts in principle
I honestly don't understand the insistence on an external issue tracker.
That just makes things more complex for no real reason.

And I also firmly disagree about the current setup being "a mess".
With no new tickets being allowed on trac, its quite the opposite of that.
If issues/tickets could be opened on both, then it'd be a mess.
This way it's just a migration.

And the tickets on trac won't go away, so no history will be lost.
If you really want, I can import them all into Forgejo, but _that_ will 
be horribly messy.